Trevor Lalish-Menagh on 20 Sep 2011 05:30:51 -0700


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Re: functional fall: which paper on the 21st?


And remember the goal is to have the paper read by the meeting.

See you all tomorrow evening at the Comcast Center.

Don't forget to RSVP if you haven't already.

Yours,
Trevor
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On Sep 19, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Ben Karel <eschew@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Dustin,

On Wednesday the Functional Fall group will be reviewing "Tackling The Awkward Squad"Âon the basis that it gives an overview of a practical, thoroughly tested solution for some of the issues left uncovered from Hughes' paper.


Cheers,
-- Ben

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Dustin <dustin.getz@gmail.com> wrote:
if we haven't picked one, i recommend:

"out of the tar pit" http://web.mac.com/ben_moseley/frp/paper-v1_01.pdf

this paper cites mythical man month (fred brooks) a lot which was the
earliest deep discussion of software complexity that i know of. it
goes on to build on "accidental" and "essential" complexities to
calling out non-essential state as the worst offender of making things
too complex, then goes on to say OOP is designed to encapsulate state,
thus languages like java tend to result in overcomplicated codebases.
he describes a hybrid functional/oo approach as a possible solution.

there are also a lot of papers written by odersky (scala creator),
hopefully i will have read a few more by wednesday to recommend.