Justin W. Reagor on 29 Aug 2007 13:43:30 -0000


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Re: [PhillyOnRails] Sharp stick in the eye on free software distributed after MSDN and TechNet Events here in KC today...

  • From: "Justin W. Reagor" <justinwr@gmail.com>
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Java.. rebellious??? Hahhaha... I know some people just can't move on. They are like freaktards with a bagged mindset from the IBM era. The tide is turning on those [MS] technologies, and your either coming or going.

:: Justin Reagor



On Aug 29, 2007, at 9:34 AM, Cliff Moon wrote:

Reminds me of something funny from college.  I was in a class teaching
web dev with Java, and the professor had a microsoft shill, err,
evangelist come in for the opposing viewpoint.  He referred to spring,
hibernate, and the other open source frameworks as the "rebel
frameworks" in his pitch for VB.  Who talks like that?

GREG NEELEY wrote:
August 28, 2007

One of the great things about free software for LINUX is that, by and
large, it works.

That's not to say that you can't find bugs.  It means, for the most
part, if you can get it installed,
it runs.

And, over the years, I've installed LINUX variants on a wide variety
of PC hardware, without fail.

Much of this LINUX was free, or at very reduced cost, such as the cost
of distributing a CD in the case
of Slackware.

At least that's the general trend.

I was really entertained after shooting the day in a morning and
afternoon session today with some
Microsoft folks here in KC.

When I got home with the free software (Windows Server 2003 SP 2), it
completely "hung"
my version of Windows 2000 Professional during the attempted start up
of the normal install
image, the kind you usually use to upgrade Windows software.

When I say "hung", I mean I couldn't even use a "three-fingered
salute" to bring up the Task Manager,
and kill the process started by the installation executable off the
DVD drive.

Just to make sure my DVD drive wasn't defective, I booted up my LINUX
variant on the same box ( I run GRUB, so I can boot either Linux or
Windows), the Suse Enterprise
Desktop 10 from NOVELL, and there isn't a thing wrong with the DVD.

Most entertaining:-)  What a great comment from a buddy of mine who
was an old IBM hand from 40 years back.  He was lamenting the fact
that Microsoft has a reputation for "software that doesn't work."  It
explains
why the courts in county seats in Kansas ran SCO years ago on PCs,
instead of Windows, because judges have a low
tolerance for failure when it comes to applications the court uses,
such as child support applications:-)

I mean, the Microsoft reps. were handing these DVDs out like candy at
the beginning of the day.

I really feel sorry for them.

It has to be embarassing when paid professionals produce defective
DVDs, while people who are not highly
compensated produce largely high-quality open software, such as LINUX,
Ruby, etc.

It's no suprise, given these scenarios why so many organizations are
adopting LINUX solutions.  I saw on NOVELL's
website they have an electronics firm in India that just deployed
30,0000 LINUX seats, and something like 1800 server seats.

Onward through the fog.
-Greg.
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