Adam Turoff on Mon, 6 Mar 2000 03:04:59 -0500 (EST)


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Re: YAPAS (Yet Another Python Advocacy Story)


dha wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 05:25:56PM -0500, Adam Turoff wrote:
> > dha wrote:
> > > Indeed.  Not only does he say 'Many other programs are written in a
> > > variety of illegible dialects within the family of languages called
> > > "Perl".', which is clearly incomprehensible (is that an oxymoron?
> > > :-), 
> > 
> > Let's be fair here.  There's beginner's "pidgin" Perl, 
> > [...levels of perl...]
> 
> It is indeed ok.  It is, however not what he's saying.  

That's how I interpreted it, poorly phrased and misguidingly worded
as it was....

> > > I wonder if I should suggest he put that in his pipe and smoke it, or
> > > if that would be giving it more attention than it deserves... :-/
> > 
> > It'll be our loss. 
> 
> How so?  I merely meant pointing out what I find to be misconceptions
> presented as facts in his piece.  C'mon, you know me... I'm not *that*
> nasty... :-)

Well, this wasn't a white paper, and it could have benefitted from 
a little more eyes and level-headedness.

At the same time, Python is very attractive to newbies and a certain 
class of programmer.  If we do nothing and forego the contributions
they could have made to Perl, we'll be worse off in the long run.

If, we see this as an opportunity to address the flaws in Perl that
other people ascribe to it, then we can improve Perl for the long haul,
or at least determine where Perl doesn't belong.

> I would merely wish python to 'win' (if that means anything...) on its
> own merits, rather than through disinformation.  *shrug*

No argument there.  I didn't find any disinformation though, just a 
lot of misdirected frustration with Perl/C++.

Z.

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