Re: New article available on www.perl.com

[Adam Turoff <ziggy@panix.com>]

On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:46:46PM -0500, mjd-perl-pm@plover.com wrote:
> I was in Boulder last week and I told Nat Torkington that I wanted to do
> a talk at the next Perl conference titled 'Why I Hate Advocacy'.  I
> have been thinking about that for several months.  Nat seemed to like
> the idea, but over the following week all the ideas came together for
> me and I wrote it up for the web site.  So I probably won't give the
> talk, but we do have an article about it.  

One random datapoint.

	I got mail a couple of days ago from Jasmine Merced-Owenby,
	who runs the Perl Archive web site. Part of the site had
	been implemented with PHP, and she was getting letters from
	people who were concerned that this 'made Perl look bad'.

If that was bad, take a look at this:

	http://weblogs.userland.com/zopeNewbies/

	Zope Site: ActiveState "Zope was chosen as the platform
	and implemented slightly differently in each case. (Mailing
	list archive, product documentation, and CPAN info.)"

:-)

As an aside, I was flipping through the HOPL II proceedings this
weekend, and I came across Alan Kay's presentation about Smalltalk.
Somewhere in the Q&A I believe, he said it was a stupid idea to
keep using a programming language for a prolonged period of time
as the designer originally designed.   Specifically, he was saying
that there were some problems with Smalltalk '72, other problems
with Smalltalk '80, and so on.  The point of his exercise was to
spread ideas about programming than to increase the size of the
Smalltalk-programming population.

Dennis Ritchie has had similar things to say about C recently (I
forget the URL), and Charles Moore has said pretty much the same thing
about FORTH as well.

Z.

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