mjd-perl-pm on Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:20:18 -0400


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Re: oops! (fwd)


> This feature does add something: convinience - it optimizes for the
> common case. 

But it doesn't optimize.  With most mailers, sending a reply to all
the recipients is just exactly as easy as sending a reply to just the
original author.  So there's nothing gained  for those people by
putting in the 'Reply-To'.


> It doesn't actually remove choices.

It does for many people.  Not everyone uses mutt; most mailers do not
have an option to ignore the reply-to header.  People using these
mailers will have to pound on the To: line manually.


> I have never experienced  the "Can't Find My Way Back Home" problem, nor
> heard of it.

Whether or not you have heard of the problem, it exists.

There have been occasions in the past when I wanted to send mail to
the pm list and have replies sent elsewhere.  But because of the
header mangling, there is no way to do that, because the list manager
has decided he knows better than I do what is appropriate.

>  Also, it's easily fixable - just move the old reply-to to
> x-old-reply-to (or whatever)

That is not 'fixing' it; that is *breaking* it.  The original author
wanted replies sent to a certain place, and the mailing list has
removed that request and stuck it in an X-header that many mailers
will not even display.

> On an un-munged list, when I hit "reply to all" (and don't edit - if I
> do edit, it's just as easy either way), I end up sending two messages:
> one to the list, and one to the original sender.  The original author
> may then begin to reply to the personal message, only to realize that
> she wants her message to go to the list - so she has to hunt down the
> list address and go back and type it in. 

I find that very difficult to believe.  I have never seen a mailer
that behaves the way you say.  It is much more common for a
reply-to-all feature to send *one* message, with both the list and the
private recipient listed in the message header.  

Are you sure your description is correct?  Please do a "reply to all"
reply to this message, so I can see what you are talking about.


(This will be my last public message on this topic.)

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