From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Thu Sep 01 11:23:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 19721 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2005 11:23:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Sep 2005 11:23:57 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 19711 invoked by uid 107); 1 Sep 2005 11:23:54 -0000 Received: from [66.33.198.201] (HELO jareth.dreamhost.com) (66.33.198.201) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Sep 2005 07:23:54 -0400 Received: from localhost (pcp0010779903pcs.walngs01.pa.comcast.net [69.142.94.59]) by jareth.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7DE57840F for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 04:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 07:23:26 -0400 From: Toby DiPasquale To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: Re: [PLUG] looking for ecommerce host Message-ID: <20050901112326.GC9568@adidas.localdomain> References: <431656FE.3080909@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <431656FE.3080909@comcast.net> X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 09:18:54PM -0400, gyoza@comcast.net wrote: > Kam Salisbury wrote: > > >Try dreamhost.com They may be able to help. If you signup just input 'kam' referred you. > > > > > > > Dreamhost was extremely slow when I used them a few years back. They are no longer so. I've used them for years without any major problems. -- Toby DiPasquale ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Thu Sep 01 11:32:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 20806 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2005 11:32:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Sep 2005 11:32:02 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 20796 invoked by uid 107); 1 Sep 2005 11:31:58 -0000 Received: from [66.249.82.195] (HELO xproxy.gmail.com) (66.249.82.195) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Sep 2005 07:31:58 -0400 Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i28so398743wxd for ; Thu, 01 Sep 2005 04:31:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hKyFLCwIW9qiiOT9SIY9kof1fmfMkuXAOkGb9o49b4uPYQ63eMr49RS8oVVjPB4IE6XihU9CE6fLYrlnzS6RumAJEYnsxgBP2YCOc5ErngKbnhhLxIHzC1FR/XsV+4CdtACj7KnDiYQ8htmwYWN1lNNLcaw40uedo2EqiZmNDNI= Received: by 10.70.48.2 with SMTP id v2mr64317wxv; Thu, 01 Sep 2005 04:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.45.2 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 04:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 07:31:37 -0400 From: Jeff Watson To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org In-Reply-To: <43163dab.55dc21b7.1c03.2c86SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <43163dab.55dc21b7.1c03.2c86SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.gmail.com> Subject: [PLUG] slackware ndiswrapper / wlan0 X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0856376784==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org --===============0856376784== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8990_22928955.1125574297299" ------=_Part_8990_22928955.1125574297299 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I have been fighting my slackware box recently, trying to get it to=20 recognize my wireless card. It's an intel pro2200 B/G card, and ndiswrapper= =20 compiles fine. I can install the drivers, but I need to create a device=20 wlan0... on other distros I have used it always created the device, or it= =20 was already there... ifconfig gives me my standard lo and eth0, and iwconfi= g=20 detects "no wireless interfaces". The post about slackware uptime jogged my= =20 memory, and I know it would be helpful for me to post any ndiswrapper stuff= =20 from dmesg, etc but I am at work. IF anyone has any pointers that would be= =20 great, otherwise I'll have to post with more technical information this=20 evening. -Jeff Watson -Redgibson@gmail.com=20 -Gas prices are completely out of hand :-( You could make more money walkin= g=20 to burgerking and working there then driving 20 miles to/from work every da= y=20 for a nice salary. grrrrrr.... ------=_Part_8990_22928955.1125574297299 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I have been fighting my slackware box recently, trying to get it to recognize my wireless card. It's an intel pro2200 B/G card, and ndiswrapper compiles fine. I can install the drivers, but I need to create a device wlan0... on other distros I have used it always created the device, or it was already there... ifconfig gives me my standard lo and eth0, and iwconfig detects "no wireless interfaces". The post= about slackware uptime jogged my memory, and I know it would be helpful for me to post any ndiswrapper stuff from dmesg, etc but I am at work. IF anyone has any pointers that would be great, otherwise I'll have to post with more technical information this evening.

            &nb= sp;  -Jeff Watson
            &nb= sp;  -Redgibson@gmail.com <= br>             &nb= sp;  -Gas prices are completely out of hand :-( You could make more money walking to burgerking and working there then driving 20 miles to/from work every day for a nice salary. grrrrrr....
------=_Part_8990_22928955.1125574297299-- --===============0856376784== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug --===============0856376784==-- From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Thu Sep 01 12:21:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 26133 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2005 12:21:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Sep 2005 12:21:19 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 26123 invoked by uid 107); 1 Sep 2005 12:21:16 -0000 Received: from [216.158.45.183] (HELO astra.purple.com) (216.158.45.183) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Sep 2005 08:21:16 -0400 Received: from jeff by astra.purple.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EAo3q-0002uf-SZ for plug@lists.phillylinux.org; Thu, 01 Sep 2005 08:20:54 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 08:20:54 -0400 From: Jeff Abrahamson To: PLUG Message-ID: <20050901122054.GI4067@purple.com> Mail-Followup-To: PLUG Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: [PLUG] fwd: unix help needed X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1466897422==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org --===============1466897422== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY" Content-Disposition: inline --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please reply to rob.wilkinson@unisys, not to me or to the list. -Jeff ----- Forwarded message from "Wilkinson, Robert" = ----- Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:52:18 -0400 =46rom: "Wilkinson, Robert" Subject: Temporary Unix help needed at a medical practice To: [20 lines, 134 words, 749 characters] Top characters: entioasr My wife manages a large medical practice in Willow Grove and has an old SCO Unix system that has been mostly transitioned to another system. It still however, contains some information occasionally needs to be printed. Unsolicited, someone came in and screwed up the printer that was connected to it by wiring it differently and now she cannot get it to print and cannot find any Unix help. =20 Perhaps someone on this list might be able to help her recover her print capability until she can get rid of it. =20 Perhaps someone can even support her until she has fully transitioned Is anyone on this list interested in doing that or knows someone who might be? So are there any Unix gurus on the list willing to help out for a fee? =20 Regards, Rob ----- End forwarded message ----- --=20 Jeff Jeff Abrahamson +1 215/837-2287 GPG fingerprint: 1A1A BA95 D082 A558 A276 63C6 16BF 8C4C 0D1D AE4B --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDFvImFr+MTA0drksRAkhtAJ9JsN6Z01TzdNG+LhCqFyR9SYQlyACcCZp0 sAjMxfPGuDiB7tg7+WSJzfI= =fEAv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY-- --===============1466897422== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug --===============1466897422==-- From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Thu Sep 01 12:47:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 28543 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2005 12:47:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Sep 2005 12:47:48 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 28516 invoked by uid 107); 1 Sep 2005 12:47:46 -0000 Received: from [144.118.29.71] (HELO shim1.irt.drexel.edu) (144.118.29.71) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Sep 2005 08:47:46 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.shim1.irt.drexel.edu by shim1.irt.drexel.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) id <0IM5004010WI7N@shim1.irt.drexel.edu> for plug@lists.phillylinux.org; Thu, 01 Sep 2005 08:47:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camelot.homelinux.com (act.cs.drexel.edu [129.25.6.156]) by shim1.irt.drexel.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IM500DG9270WL@shim1.irt.drexel.edu> for plug@lists.phillylinux.org; Thu, 01 Sep 2005 08:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31113 invoked from network); Thu, 01 Sep 2005 08:47:44 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.camelot.homelinux.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Thu, 01 Sep 2005 08:47:44 -0400 Received: from 144.118.193.32 (SquirrelMail authenticated user cos) by mail.camelot.homelinux.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Sep 2005 08:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 08:47:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Cosmin Nicolaescu Subject: Re: [PLUG] slackware ndiswrapper / wlan0 In-reply-to: To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org Message-id: <4243.144.118.193.32.1125578864.squirrel@mail.camelot.homelinux.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 References: <43163dab.55dc21b7.1c03.2c86SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, September 1, 2005 7:31 am, Jeff Watson wrote: > I have been fighting my slackware box recently, trying to get it to > recognize my wireless card. It's an intel pro2200 B/G card, and > ndiswrapper > compiles fine. I can install the drivers, but I need to create a device > wlan0... on other distros I have used it always created the device, or it > was already there... ifconfig gives me my standard lo and eth0, and > iwconfig > detects "no wireless interfaces". The post about slackware uptime jogged > my > memory, and I know it would be helpful for me to post any ndiswrapper > stuff > from dmesg, etc but I am at work. IF anyone has any pointers that would be > great, otherwise I'll have to post with more technical information this > evening. For the intel 2200, why not just use iwp2200 ? http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net In the past I've had horrible results with ndis-wrapper, so whenever there is an aletrnative I go with that. - -Cos - -- GPG key fingerprint = DE9F 4664 E666 2BD1 903E 4F4D EA31 5FB1 C7F9 08C1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDFvhw6jFfscf5CMERAivdAJwPQ53Dog7z1OrMxpcoPfBJC4MwRgCg0JxU x8+aTPD6GHeP+smF8lDa6oA= =lJe+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri Sep 02 14:42:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 32696 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2005 14:42:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Sep 2005 14:42:27 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 32653 invoked by uid 107); 2 Sep 2005 14:42:25 -0000 Received: from [146.145.66.90] (HELO beck.quonix.net) (146.145.66.90) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 10:42:25 -0400 Received: from beck.quonix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beck.quonix.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j82Efg9x018586 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 10:41:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (essenz@localhost) by beck.quonix.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id j82Efgnp018583 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 10:41:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: beck.quonix.net: essenz owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 10:41:42 -0400 (EDT) From: John Von Essen X-X-Sender: essenz@beck.quonix.net To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org Message-ID: <20050902103930.B17360@beck.quonix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SpamAssassin-3.0.4-Score: -2.82/6.5 ALL_TRUSTED X-MimeDefang-2.51: beck.quonix.net X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 146.145.66.90 Subject: [PLUG] group membership limitss... X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org So I guess in Linux theres a limit on group membership set to 32. When you go beyond 32, the group membership doesn't take effect anymore. I was told there is a way to override this, but I can't get find anything on the internet. Anyone have any idea how to do this? -John ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri Sep 02 15:34:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 5749 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2005 15:34:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Sep 2005 15:34:31 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 5735 invoked by uid 107); 2 Sep 2005 15:34:29 -0000 Received: from [67.19.137.178] (HELO mail.f2o.org) (67.19.137.178) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:34:29 -0400 Received: from www.f2o.org (peppi.f2o.org [70.84.131.84]) by mail.f2o.org (8.13.1/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j82FY6f3026019; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 10:34:06 -0500 Received: from 38.112.69.22 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bharris) by www.f2o.org with HTTP; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:34:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2682.38.112.69.22.1125675251.squirrel@www.f2o.org> In-Reply-To: <20050902103930.B17360@beck.quonix.net> References: <20050902103930.B17360@beck.quonix.net> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:34:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [PLUG] group membership limitss... From: "Brett Harris" To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" Cc: plug@lists.phillylinux.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Flag: No, 0 out of 5. Tests: X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 67.19.137.178 X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: plug@bharris.f2o.org, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org I'd look into FACLs (File Access Control Lists). They allow more fine grained control over files/folders with multiple groups being allowed different types of access on a given file. We are using FACLs with winbind,samba, and a windows domain to provide file sharing services to our employees. I can only assume that the greater control would allow greater flexibility in the number of groups as well. We have about 50 groups in our domain so that is an indicator to me that its possible. I'd be interested in the answer once you find it however. -Brett John Von Essen said: > So I guess in Linux theres a limit on group membership set to 32. When you > go beyond 32, the group membership doesn't take effect anymore. > > I was told there is a way to override this, but I can't get find anything > on the internet. Anyone have any idea how to do this? > > -John ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri Sep 02 15:43:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 6842 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2005 15:43:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Sep 2005 15:43:24 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 6794 invoked by uid 107); 2 Sep 2005 15:43:21 -0000 Received: from [146.145.66.90] (HELO beck.quonix.net) (146.145.66.90) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:43:21 -0400 Received: from beck.quonix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beck.quonix.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j82Fgt02024541 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:42:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (essenz@localhost) by beck.quonix.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id j82FgtZh024538 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:42:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: beck.quonix.net: essenz owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:42:55 -0400 (EDT) From: John Von Essen X-X-Sender: essenz@beck.quonix.net To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" Subject: Re: [PLUG] group membership limitss... In-Reply-To: <2682.38.112.69.22.1125675251.squirrel@www.f2o.org> Message-ID: <20050902114143.A17360@beck.quonix.net> References: <20050902103930.B17360@beck.quonix.net> <2682.38.112.69.22.1125675251.squirrel@www.f2o.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SpamAssassin-3.0.4-Score: -2.82/6.5 ALL_TRUSTED X-MimeDefang-2.51: beck.quonix.net X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 146.145.66.90 X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org I found this on google: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/limits.h: #define NGROUPS_MAX 32 /* supplemental group IDs are available */ I think changing that and recompiling will take care of it. The group controls in question are to support a large cvs system. -John On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Brett Harris wrote: > I'd look into FACLs (File Access Control Lists). They allow more fine > grained control over files/folders with multiple groups being allowed > different types of access on a given file. We are using FACLs with > winbind,samba, and a windows domain to provide file sharing services to > our employees. I can only assume that the greater control would allow > greater flexibility in the number of groups as well. We have about 50 > groups in our domain so that is an indicator to me that its possible. I'd > be interested in the answer once you find it however. > > -Brett > > John Von Essen said: > > So I guess in Linux theres a limit on group membership set to 32. When you > > go beyond 32, the group membership doesn't take effect anymore. > > > > I was told there is a way to override this, but I can't get find anything > > on the internet. Anyone have any idea how to do this? > > > > -John > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri Sep 02 15:53:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 8133 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2005 15:53:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Sep 2005 15:53:49 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 8094 invoked by uid 107); 2 Sep 2005 15:53:47 -0000 Received: from [68.142.198.203] (HELO smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.198.203) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:53:47 -0400 Received: (qmail 29334 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2005 15:53:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (greg.lopp@sbcglobal.net@67.67.84.225 with plain) by smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Sep 2005 15:53:26 -0000 Message-ID: <43187571.4090501@pobox.com> Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 10:53:21 -0500 From: Greg Lopp User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: Re: [PLUG] group membership limitss... References: <20050902103930.B17360@beck.quonix.net> <2682.38.112.69.22.1125675251.squirrel@www.f2o.org> <20050902114143.A17360@beck.quonix.net> In-Reply-To: <20050902114143.A17360@beck.quonix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org A quick google of NGROUPS_MAX reveals http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0010.0/0788.html You'll need to recompile your kernel and glibc John Von Essen wrote: >I found this on google: > >/usr/src/linux/include/linux/limits.h: >#define NGROUPS_MAX 32 /* supplemental group IDs are available */ > >I think changing that and recompiling will take care of it. The group >controls in question are to support a large cvs system. > > >-John > >On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Brett Harris wrote: > > > >>I'd look into FACLs (File Access Control Lists). They allow more fine >>grained control over files/folders with multiple groups being allowed >>different types of access on a given file. We are using FACLs with >>winbind,samba, and a windows domain to provide file sharing services to >>our employees. I can only assume that the greater control would allow >>greater flexibility in the number of groups as well. We have about 50 >>groups in our domain so that is an indicator to me that its possible. I'd >>be interested in the answer once you find it however. >> >>-Brett >> >>John Von Essen said: >> >> >>>So I guess in Linux theres a limit on group membership set to 32. When you >>>go beyond 32, the group membership doesn't take effect anymore. >>> >>>I was told there is a way to override this, but I can't get find anything >>>on the internet. Anyone have any idea how to do this? >>> >>>-John >>> >>> >>___________________________________________________________________________ >>Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org >>Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce >>General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> >> >> >___________________________________________________________________________ >Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org >Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce >General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri Sep 02 22:56:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 15887 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2005 22:56:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Sep 2005 22:56:17 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 15874 invoked by uid 107); 2 Sep 2005 22:56:14 -0000 Received: from [63.240.76.49] (HELO sccrmhc14.comcast.net) (63.240.76.49) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 18:56:14 -0400 Received: from lucii.dnsalias.org ([69.142.91.97]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005090222553601400em38be>; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 22:55:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 26636 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2005 00:03:50 -0000 Received: from pc-00002.lucii.dnsalias.org (192.168.1.2) by polaris.lucii.dnsalias.org (192.168.1.254) with ESMTP; 03 Sep 2005 00:03:50 -0000 From: Eric To: PLUG Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 18:58:05 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200509021858.06253.eric@lucii.org> Subject: [PLUG] Time flies X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org About a month ago I purchased a new computer... a Hewlett Packard Pavillion a1130n - Athlon 64 with a gig of RAM, 250GB SATA drive, etc.... Fastest computer I've ever owned by more than a factor of 2 :-) Promptly made the box dual boot and spend most of my time running KDE from SuSE 9.3 professional. Now... here's the strange thing... my clock runs double speed under Linux and straight time under windows. The KDE panel clock ticks over one minute every 30 seconds. In a shell, this command... $ > date; sleep 10; date Fri Sep 2 18:45:32 EDT 2005 Fri Sep 2 18:45:42 EDT 2005 ... takes takes precisely _5_ seconds to execute :-P When I start to set the clock time/date the KDE panel clock "jumps" to the correct time (usually) if it's not too far out of sync with reality. This without me "setting" anything - just entering the application to change the time/date. Searching Google and SuSE's knowledge bases have proved fruitless. Has anyone heard of anything like this before and if so, what is/was the resolution? Do I have to become a Kernel Hacker to fix this??? Thanks in advance!! Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Eric A Lucas # ------------ # "Oh, I have slipped the surly bond of earth # and danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings... # -- John Gillespie Magee Jr. ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sat Sep 03 15:28:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 29306 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2005 15:28:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 2005 15:28:43 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 29296 invoked by uid 107); 3 Sep 2005 15:28:40 -0000 Received: from [206.46.252.48] (HELO vms048pub.verizon.net) (206.46.252.48) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 11:28:40 -0400 Received: from [151.197.39.106] by vms048.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2 HotFix 0.04 (built Dec 24 2004)) with ESMTPA id <0IM800G2CYZ2SOF0@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> for plug@lists.phillylinux.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 10:28:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 11:31:06 -0400 From: Art Alexion To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Message-id: <4319C1BA.4040204@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050317) Subject: [PLUG] turntable to CD X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: art.alexion@verizon.net, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1335030080==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============1335030080== Content-type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary=------------enigB5D1370FCB4AA0D15E722CAD This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB5D1370FCB4AA0D15E722CAD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any recommendations for software for ripping from analog sources such as turntables and cassette players, fixing things like pop and hiss and then burning to CD? Doesn't need to be a single package; one for each task is fine. I know Nero/Linux does this but is there an open source alternative. -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC arthur [at] alexion [dot] com aim: aalexion sms: 2679725536 [at] messaging [dot] sprintpcs [dot] com PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ --------------enigB5D1370FCB4AA0D15E722CAD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQxnBvkLG/oYII0YuAQJ6OQP/evSxuJ9IQJP5womWuTwXTfuPb5e1rdbd OH0Q8jB9XHsqk+W/lYroPoEnkvr++XnMqN6JQ4QFHnCLGA/Kb8+iws0OEEm7FCZ2 e8TfsrbW/Jgf4AjGgUHZOTElOjdtwSeqUjzoWOdn5YPEHdON2tICsKK+koG+O17g F1AcLrj+HVI= =JqJ0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB5D1370FCB4AA0D15E722CAD-- --===============1335030080== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug --===============1335030080==-- From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sat Sep 03 16:29:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 2535 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2005 16:29:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 2005 16:29:43 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 2499 invoked by uid 107); 3 Sep 2005 16:29:39 -0000 Received: from [64.115.33.122] (HELO furby.jynx.net) (64.115.33.122) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 12:29:39 -0400 Received: (qmail 5810 invoked by uid 2335); 3 Sep 2005 12:29:23 -0400 Received: from 68.46.21.52 by furby.jynx.net (envelope-from , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.85.1/934. sweep: 2.9/3.55. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. Clear:RC:1(68.46.21.52):. Processed in 3.188005 secs); 03 Sep 2005 16:29:23 -0000 X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN-Mail-From: chris@jynx.net via furby.jynx.net X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:1(68.46.21.52):. Processed in 3.188005 secs Process 5803) Received: from unknown (HELO moon) (chris@jynx.net@68.46.21.52) by furby.jynx.net with SMTP; 3 Sep 2005 12:29:19 -0400 From: "Chris" To: , "'Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List'" Subject: RE: [PLUG] turntable to CD Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 12:29:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcWwnDiLxhUAwC3NSDesQjqHWmhSmQACFTOg In-Reply-To: <4319C1BA.4040204@verizon.net> X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN-Message-ID: <112576496010705803@furby.jynx.net> X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Any popping or hissing come from the turntable is a bad ground on the table or bad needles. Chris S chris@jynx.net www.Jynx.net -----Original Message----- From: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org [mailto:plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org] On Behalf Of Art Alexion Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 11:31 AM To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: [PLUG] turntable to CD Any recommendations for software for ripping from analog sources such as turntables and cassette players, fixing things like pop and hiss and then burning to CD? Doesn't need to be a single package; one for each task is fine. I know Nero/Linux does this but is there an open source alternative. -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC arthur [at] alexion [dot] com aim: aalexion sms: 2679725536 [at] messaging [dot] sprintpcs [dot] com PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sat Sep 03 16:56:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 5796 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2005 16:56:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 2005 16:56:38 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 5786 invoked by uid 107); 3 Sep 2005 16:56:35 -0000 Received: from [64.233.162.193] (HELO zproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.162.193) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 12:56:35 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r28so474327nza for ; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 09:56:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tH/CSJ3ebNmKYyQirx/PxVXlZ6tlG7xzmHcPWRSMMafX7zFjmb5muYmqAAABnW9qFJeu6q4Gc2vppbQNZeZvQvERBAQ73EPQOjZHe7P6HvI19nhXOPzcr9issIuCo1N+pMiLhH+a3+kkdaTQmgC4SfEUSUBFrfJxxtiUdzoWf8c= Received: by 10.36.252.46 with SMTP id z46mr3231146nzh; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 09:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.39.5 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Sep 2005 09:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6bb38bb805090309566a270fd0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 12:56:34 -0400 From: Michael Lazin To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: Re: [PLUG] turntable to CD In-Reply-To: <4319cfa5.14e520ec.06a2.ffffe39cSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <4319C1BA.4040204@verizon.net> <4319cfa5.14e520ec.06a2.ffffe39cSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: microlaser@gmail.com, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Audacity is a nice sound recorder with a lot of features. If you have the equipment I would suggest having your turntable hooked up to a mixer and plugging the line out or tape out from your mixer into the mic in of your computer. Mixers use RCA connectors but you can buy an RCA to 1/8" jack at Radio Shack for cheap. Michael On 9/3/05, Chris wrote: > Any popping or hissing come from the turntable is a bad ground on the tab= le > or bad needles. >=20 >=20 > Chris S > chris@jynx.net > www.Jynx.net > -----Original Message----- > From: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org > [mailto:plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org] On Behalf Of Art Alexion > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 11:31 AM > To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List > Subject: [PLUG] turntable to CD >=20 > Any recommendations for software for ripping from analog sources such as > turntables and cassette players, fixing things like pop and hiss and > then burning to CD? Doesn't need to be a single package; one for each > task is fine. >=20 > I know Nero/Linux does this but is there an open source alternative. >=20 > -- >=20 > _______________________________________ > Art Alexion > Arthur S. Alexion LLC > arthur [at] alexion [dot] com > aim: aalexion > sms: 2679725536 [at] messaging [dot] sprintpcs [dot] com >=20 > PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A > The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need fo= r > alarm. > Info @ > http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html >=20 > Key for signed PDFs available at > http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c > The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. > ________________________________________ >=20 >=20 > _________________________________________________________________________= __ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.o= rg > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announ= ce > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/pl= ug > ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sat Sep 03 17:22:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 9296 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2005 17:22:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 2005 17:22:54 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 9248 invoked by uid 107); 3 Sep 2005 17:22:51 -0000 Received: from [63.240.76.21] (HELO sccrmhc11.comcast.net) (63.240.76.21) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 13:22:51 -0400 Received: from merctech.com (pcp0010648650pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net[68.54.185.79]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005090317223001100t1lk3e>; Sat, 3 Sep 2005 17:22:30 +0000 Received: from piquin (piquin [127.0.0.1]) by merctech.com (8.13.4/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j83HMS0r022928; Sat, 3 Sep 2005 13:22:28 -0400 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.1 To: art.alexion@verizon.net, "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" From: bergman@merctech.com Subject: Re: [PLUG] turntable to CD In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 03 Sep 2005 11:31:06 EDT." <4319C1BA.4040204@verizon.net> References: <4319C1BA.4040204@verizon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 13:22:28 -0400 Message-ID: <22927.1125768148@piquin> X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bergman@merctech.com, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org In the message dated: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 11:31:06 EDT, The pithy ruminations from Art Alexion on <[PLUG] turntable to CD> were: => This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) => --===============1335030080== => Content-type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; => protocol="application/pgp-signature"; => boundary=------------enigB5D1370FCB4AA0D15E722CAD => => This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) => --------------enigB5D1370FCB4AA0D15E722CAD => Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 => Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit => => Any recommendations for software for ripping from analog sources such as => turntables and cassette players, fixing things like pop and hiss and => then burning to CD? Doesn't need to be a single package; one for each => task is fine. I've had this discussion a couple of times, and here are some of the answers I've gotten: http://www.8ung.at/klappnase/phonoripper/phonoripper.html Among other things, it's supposed to automatically recognize tracks and save songs as individual files. -------------------------------- One person reported their steps as: 1/ Digitised with Krecord. [One of its nice features is that it won't start recording until it sees a signal - amplitude user adjustable - such as happens when the stylus drops onto the LP!] 2/ GWC - gnome wave cleaner. Wow! It really cleans up LPs. It won't work miracles, but for most of my LPs it removed all the clicks and plops, and with a bit more work, removes surface noise too. 3/ GWC detects tracks (actually x seconds of silence; x is adjustable) and will write out a table of contents file which can include track names, etc. This file is usable by cdrdao to create an audio CD. Step 2 can be very time consuming - I allowed a couple of hours per LP for those that I really cared about. Mostly it's listening for errors missed by the clean up operations. And my LPs are mostly in excellent condition. ------------------------------------- Also check out gramofile (gramophile?). --------------------------------------------------------- I haven't tried any of these. One day I'll finally unpack my vinyl and turntable and try it myself, so I'm interested in hearing what works for you. Thanks, Mark => => I know Nero/Linux does this but is there an open source alternative. => => -- => => _______________________________________ => Art Alexion => Arthur S. Alexion LLC => arthur [at] alexion [dot] com => aim: aalexion => sms: 2679725536 [at] messaging [dot] sprintpcs [dot] com => => PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A => The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. => Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html => => Key for signed PDFs available at => http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c => The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. => ________________________________________ => => => --------------enigB5D1370FCB4AA0D15E722CAD => Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" => Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature => Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" => => -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- => Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) => Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org => => iQCVAwUBQxnBvkLG/oYII0YuAQJ6OQP/evSxuJ9IQJP5womWuTwXTfuPb5e1rdbd => OH0Q8jB9XHsqk+W/lYroPoEnkvr++XnMqN6JQ4QFHnCLGA/Kb8+iws0OEEm7FCZ2 => e8TfsrbW/Jgf4AjGgUHZOTElOjdtwSeqUjzoWOdn5YPEHdON2tICsKK+koG+O17g => F1AcLrj+HVI= => =JqJ0 => -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- => => --------------enigB5D1370FCB4AA0D15E722CAD-- => => --===============1335030080== => Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" => MIME-Version: 1.0 => Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit => Content-Disposition: inline => => ___________________________________________________________________________ => Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org => Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce => General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug => => --===============1335030080==-- => ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sat Sep 03 17:26:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 10001 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2005 17:26:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 2005 17:26:35 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 9959 invoked by uid 107); 3 Sep 2005 17:26:33 -0000 Received: from [207.245.69.226] (HELO bridget.crompton.com) (207.245.69.226) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 13:26:33 -0400 Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by bridget.crompton.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id j83HQ9320966 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2005 13:26:09 -0400 Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 13:26:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Doug Crompton To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" Subject: RE: [PLUG] turntable to CD In-Reply-To: <200509031631.j83GVLw20580@bridget.crompton.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org I doubt it. Pop and hissing are caused by scratches in the vinyl and worn vinyl assuming you have a good cartridge and needle. Poor grounds or ground loops cause hum. Funny how most kids today have no conception of any of this. Like the vacumn tube it is a thing of the past! Doug On Sat, 3 Sep 2005, Chris wrote: > Any popping or hissing come from the turntable is a bad ground on the table > or bad needles. > > > Chris S > chris@jynx.net > www.Jynx.net **************************** * Doug Crompton * * Richboro, PA 18954 * * 215-431-6307 * * * * doug@crompton.com * * http://www.crompton.com * **************************** ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sat Sep 03 18:00:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 12756 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2005 18:00:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 2005 18:00:30 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 12743 invoked by uid 107); 3 Sep 2005 18:00:28 -0000 Received: from [63.240.76.22] (HELO sccrmhc12.comcast.net) (63.240.76.22) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 14:00:28 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.20] (pcp09527262pcs.audubn01.nj.comcast.net[68.46.49.114]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20050903180007012003lpkne>; Sat, 3 Sep 2005 18:00:07 +0000 Message-ID: <4319E4A9.8070909@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 14:00:09 -0400 From: gyoza@comcast.net User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: art.alexion@verizon.net, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: Re: [PLUG] turntable to CD References: <4319C1BA.4040204@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <4319C1BA.4040204@verizon.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Art Alexion wrote: >Any recommendations for software for ripping from analog sources such as >turntables and cassette players, fixing things like pop and hiss and >then burning to CD? Doesn't need to be a single package; one for each >task is fine. > >I know Nero/Linux does this but is there an open source alternative. > > You could try Audacity. ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sat Sep 03 18:05:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 13491 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2005 18:05:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 2005 18:05:33 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 13481 invoked by uid 107); 3 Sep 2005 18:05:30 -0000 Received: from [63.240.76.28] (HELO sccrmhc13.comcast.net) (63.240.76.28) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 14:05:30 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.20] (pcp09527262pcs.audubn01.nj.comcast.net[68.46.49.114]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <200509031805090130064gcee>; Sat, 3 Sep 2005 18:05:09 +0000 Message-ID: <4319E5D7.6020400@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 14:05:11 -0400 From: gyoza@comcast.net User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: Re: [PLUG] turntable to CD References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Doug Crompton wrote: >Like the vacumn tube it is a thing of the past! > > Naw, I use a vacuum hose every time clean my carpet. Heh. Actually, musicians still use [hybrid] tube amplifiers. ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sat Sep 03 19:01:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 18629 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2005 19:01:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 2005 19:01:57 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 18619 invoked by uid 107); 3 Sep 2005 19:01:54 -0000 Received: from [64.115.33.122] (HELO furby.jynx.net) (64.115.33.122) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 15:01:54 -0400 Received: (qmail 14334 invoked by uid 2335); 3 Sep 2005 15:01:33 -0400 Received: from 68.46.21.52 by furby.jynx.net (envelope-from , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.85.1/934. sweep: 2.9/3.55. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. 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Processed in 3.299763 secs Process 14326) Received: from unknown (HELO moon) (chris@jynx.net@68.46.21.52) by furby.jynx.net with SMTP; 3 Sep 2005 15:01:29 -0400 From: "Chris" To: "'Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List'" Subject: RE: [PLUG] turntable to CD Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 15:01:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcWwrLP1efaV/DayTIaECwavVs9i5QADQntQ In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN-Message-ID: <1125774090107014326@furby.jynx.net> X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Popping could be from the records, but the hissing is the ground or cable. Ive been a DJ for a long time and I do loads of recording. Chris S chris@jynx.net www.Jynx.net -----Original Message----- From: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org [mailto:plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org] On Behalf Of Doug Crompton Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 1:26 PM To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: RE: [PLUG] turntable to CD I doubt it. Pop and hissing are caused by scratches in the vinyl and worn vinyl assuming you have a good cartridge and needle. Poor grounds or ground loops cause hum. Funny how most kids today have no conception of any of this. Like the vacumn tube it is a thing of the past! Doug On Sat, 3 Sep 2005, Chris wrote: > Any popping or hissing come from the turntable is a bad ground on the table > or bad needles. > > > Chris S > chris@jynx.net > www.Jynx.net **************************** * Doug Crompton * * Richboro, PA 18954 * * 215-431-6307 * * * * doug@crompton.com * * http://www.crompton.com * **************************** ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sat Sep 03 19:41:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 22728 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2005 19:41:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 2005 19:41:44 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 22685 invoked by uid 107); 3 Sep 2005 19:41:41 -0000 Received: from [146.145.66.90] (HELO beck.quonix.net) (146.145.66.90) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 15:41:41 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (pool-71-242-45-165.phlapa.east.verizon.net [71.242.45.165]) by beck.quonix.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j83JfHRq068384 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2005 15:41:17 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <4319C1BA.4040204@verizon.net> References: <4319C1BA.4040204@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <620eeb25f1c0b215f7c431fac0909389@essenz.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Von Essen Subject: Re: [PLUG] turntable to CD Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 15:37:42 -0400 To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-SpamAssassin-3.0.4-Score: 1.2/6.5 RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL X-MimeDefang-2.51: beck.quonix.net X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 146.145.66.90 X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Now to show my age... I used to do the exact thing your talking about on my NeXTstation. The 25Mhz 68040 NeXT boxes all had nice audio inputs and could natively capture the audio files. There was alot of software out there to convert those audio files into MP3's. But that is not a practical way of doing this nowadays. It would be nice if Apple's iTunes could capture input audio in addition to ripping audio off CD's. -john On Sep 3, 2005, at 11:31 AM, Art Alexion wrote: > Any recommendations for software for ripping from analog sources such > as > turntables and cassette players, fixing things like pop and hiss and > then burning to CD? Doesn't need to be a single package; one for each > task is fine. > > I know Nero/Linux does this but is there an open source alternative. > > -- > > _______________________________________ > Art Alexion > Arthur S. Alexion LLC > arthur [at] alexion [dot] com > aim: aalexion > sms: 2679725536 [at] messaging [dot] sprintpcs [dot] com > > PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A > The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need > for alarm. > Info @ > http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ > signature.asc.what.html > > Key for signed PDFs available at > http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c > The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. > ________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________________________________ > ____ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- > http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements - > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion -- > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sat Sep 03 21:11:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 30093 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2005 21:11:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 2005 21:11:12 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 30081 invoked by uid 107); 3 Sep 2005 21:11:09 -0000 Received: from [64.233.162.195] (HELO zproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.162.195) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 17:11:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r28so491623nza for ; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 14:11:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TfTS0LyY2Gp9j57vDzqcWXHNBa0/eYKrdywQnvN/eaxKa9gBe3IY5iBzQUS4wNczqpSpY0eXOrf8KvJF39KzP4atGiMfcONtBkoyAm4wtwvnLvoK7HUF9ZJXGEsJLRR95WnR3qN6/P2G2rKyMlP6eZspgwTK/gBMxmKn0IQsIbw= Received: by 10.36.160.12 with SMTP id i12mr3382717nze; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 14:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.2 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Sep 2005 14:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8e6f94720509031411429fc094@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 17:11:08 -0400 From: Will Dyson To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: Re: [PLUG] Time flies In-Reply-To: <200509021858.06253.eric@lucii.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200509021858.06253.eric@lucii.org> X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: will.dyson@gmail.com, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org On 9/2/05, Eric wrote: > About a month ago I purchased a new computer... a Hewlett Packard Pavilli= on > a1130n - Athlon 64 with a gig of RAM, 250GB SATA drive, etc.... Fastest > computer I've ever owned by more than a factor of 2 :-) >=20 > Promptly made the box dual boot and spend most of my time running KDE fro= m > SuSE 9.3 professional. Now... here's the strange thing... my clock runs > double speed under Linux and straight time under windows. >=20 > The KDE panel clock ticks over one minute every 30 seconds. >=20 > In a shell, this command... >=20 > $ > date; sleep 10; date > Fri Sep 2 18:45:32 EDT 2005 > Fri Sep 2 18:45:42 EDT 2005 >=20 > ... takes takes precisely _5_ seconds to execute :-P >=20 > When I start to set the clock time/date the KDE panel clock "jumps" to th= e > correct time (usually) if it's not too far out of sync with reality. Thi= s > without me "setting" anything - just entering the application to change t= he > time/date. I've noticed a few reports of this on LKML. The current workaround seems to be the no_timer_check boot option, as seen here: http://ensode.net/no_timer_check.html I'm not aware of exactly what is wrong with the boards that exhibit this problem... --=20 Will Dyson ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sat Sep 03 21:37:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 916 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2005 21:37:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 2005 21:37:42 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 906 invoked by uid 107); 3 Sep 2005 21:37:39 -0000 Received: from [206.46.252.48] (HELO vms048pub.verizon.net) (206.46.252.48) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 17:37:39 -0400 Received: from [151.197.39.106] by vms048.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2 HotFix 0.04 (built Dec 24 2004)) with ESMTPA id <0IM90084FG1ZICO0@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> for plug@lists.phillylinux.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 16:37:12 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 17:40:00 -0400 From: Art Alexion Subject: Re: [PLUG] turntable to CD In-reply-to: <6bb38bb805090309566a270fd0@mail.gmail.com> To: microlaser@gmail.com, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Message-id: <431A1830.60005@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 References: <4319C1BA.4040204@verizon.net> <4319cfa5.14e520ec.06a2.ffffe39cSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.gmail.com> <6bb38bb805090309566a270fd0@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050317) X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: art.alexion@verizon.net, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1857545845==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============1857545845== Content-type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary=------------enig546BDCFA8BB4D83D986BC0B4 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig546BDCFA8BB4D83D986BC0B4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael Lazin wrote: >Audacity is a nice sound recorder with a lot of features. If you have >the equipment I would suggest having your turntable hooked up to a >mixer and plugging the line out or tape out from your mixer into the >mic in of your computer. Mixers use RCA connectors but you can buy an >RCA to 1/8" jack at Radio Shack for cheap. > > > Thanks, Michael. I have Audacity, have played with it as a mixer, but never thought of it as a recorder. I don't have a mixer. Do I plug the turntable into the sound card directly, or through the receiver/amp? -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC arthur [at] alexion [dot] com aim: aalexion sms: 2679725536 [at] messaging [dot] sprintpcs [dot] com PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. 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If you have > >the equipment I would suggest having your turntable hooked up to a > >mixer and plugging the line out or tape out from your mixer into the > >mic in of your computer. Mixers use RCA connectors but you can buy an > >RCA to 1/8" jack at Radio Shack for cheap. > > > > > > > Thanks, Michael. I have Audacity, have played with it as a mixer, but > never thought of it as a recorder. > > I don't have a mixer. Do I plug the turntable into the sound card > directly, or through the receiver/amp? Your turntable most likely has either the wrong impedance or too low an output for the soundcard. Boosting the input gain to compensate can lead to increased noise. Most turntables need a preamp, which is why amps often have special inputs for them. If your receiver has a pair of "line out" or "tape out" jacks, you should plug those into the "line in" on your sound card. Check that the EQ is flat and then adjust it only if you think it needs tweaking. Check the resulting file against a reference (like a CD you are familiar with) so that your output is in the right ballpark. It takes a little practice to get the dynamic range right, and expect every album/song to have different requirements. Start with a short song and experiment, with different levels at different stages to see what works best. ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sun Sep 04 00:38:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 16162 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2005 00:38:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Sep 2005 00:38:27 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 16152 invoked by uid 107); 4 Sep 2005 00:38:25 -0000 Received: from [66.195.40.3] (HELO peterman.networkeleven.net) (66.195.40.3) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 20:38:25 -0400 Received: from adsl-207-245-68-25.cust.cin.dca.net ([207.245.68.25]:41695 helo=[192.168.99.100]) by peterman.networkeleven.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1EBiWP-00030R-GV; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 17:38:09 -0700 Message-ID: <431A41E9.8060800@macelroy.net> Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 20:38:01 -0400 From: John McElroy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6-1.1.fc4 (X11/20050720) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: art.alexion@verizon.net, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: Re: [PLUG] turntable to CD References: <4319C1BA.4040204@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <4319C1BA.4040204@verizon.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - peterman.networkeleven.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.phillylinux.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - macelroy.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Art Alexion wrote: > Any recommendations for software for ripping from analog sources such as > turntables and cassette players, fixing things like pop and hiss and > then burning to CD? Doesn't need to be a single package; one for each > task is fine. > > I know Nero/Linux does this but is there an open source alternative. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug Here's a reference site for you to look over that provides procedures and links to various tools. http://www.xena.uklinux.net/Linux/audio.html I've used these two programs with some success (without spending a lot of time at it though). "phonoripper" http://freshmeat.net/redir/phonoripper/40767/url_homepage/index.html and "gnome wave cleaner" http://www.redhawk.org/gwc.html ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sun Sep 04 00:45:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 17179 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2005 00:45:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Sep 2005 00:45:53 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 17160 invoked by uid 107); 4 Sep 2005 00:45:51 -0000 Received: from [216.127.133.33] (HELO mail10.mdx.safepages.com) (216.127.133.33) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 20:45:51 -0400 Received: by mail10.mdx.safepages.com (Postfix, from userid 1012) id D4585209A0; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 00:56:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dialup-4.239.198.170.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net (dialup-4.239.198.170.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net [4.239.198.170]) by mail10.mdx.safepages.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0BC2085D for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 00:56:13 +0000 (GMT) From: "Floyd L.Johnson" To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1125794762.10137.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-1) Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 20:46:03 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [PLUG] Anyone get Verizon DSL in the last 12 months? X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Dear PLUGgers, I am considering committing a year to Verizon's $15/mo plan. Has anyone else here done so, and if so, what were the pitfalls? Did you experience actual bandwidth frequently < 100kbps, delays in provisioning, can't complete the installation without Windows XP/2003, or other stuff the RBOC had once been notorious for? ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sun Sep 04 02:21:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 26173 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2005 02:21:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Sep 2005 02:21:31 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 26123 invoked by uid 107); 4 Sep 2005 02:21:27 -0000 Received: from [63.240.76.49] (HELO sccrmhc14.comcast.net) (63.240.76.49) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 22:21:27 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (pcp09527262pcs.audubn01.nj.comcast.net[68.46.49.114]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2005090402205601400ft286e>; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 02:21:06 +0000 Message-ID: <431A5A08.1000903@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 22:20:56 -0400 From: Paul User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: Re: [PLUG] Anyone get Verizon DSL in the last 12 months? References: <1125794762.10137.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1125794762.10137.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Floyd L.Johnson wrote: >Dear PLUGgers, > >I am considering committing a year to Verizon's $15/mo plan. Has anyone >else here done so, and if so, what were the pitfalls? Did you experience >actual bandwidth frequently < 100kbps, delays in provisioning, can't >complete the installation without Windows XP/2003, or other stuff the >RBOC had once been notorious for? > > > Test the connection thoroughly during the first 30 days. If it's a problem, dump it. After 30 days it will cost, I think, $70 to cancel. I ordered the service for my father. You can get DSL without Verizon local service, but you would have to pay for the more expensive full-speed DSL. So, for him, we ordered Verizon local service and used a 3rd party regional and long distance service. When I reviews the online order, I saw an extra charge labeled "Central Office Line Charge". When I called and asked about it, the person said it didn't appear on her screen and that she doesn't think that charge would appear. I think she was wrong, but I ordered over the phone instead, just for the chance that I wouldn't be charged. On the Web it also said that, if you order online, the first month is free. After the phone rep checked, she said she could offer the same deal over the phone. We'll see. Again, I'm hoping to not get a suprise when the bill comes in! We were told that the service would be activated in two weeks. We have to wait for the modem to be shipped anyway and figure out how and where to connect the filters. (I've not new to this, but my father has one wall-mounted phone, which is a new situation. I might just split off the line at the demarc or just inside the house.) The person on the phone asked about my OS. I said my father would use WinXP. She said, good. Then I asked if there might be a problem using Linux. She said, no. Although I doubt she really knows. If you use a router, it shouldn't matter. Hey, I read that there is a bootable CD version of Windows. That could help, or a friend with a laptop should have XP since Microsoft forces most vendors to install it. Hopefully, you won't need it. ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sun Sep 04 02:49:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 28211 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2005 02:48:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Sep 2005 02:48:59 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 28197 invoked by uid 107); 4 Sep 2005 02:48:57 -0000 Received: from [206.46.252.46] (HELO vms046pub.verizon.net) (206.46.252.46) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 22:48:57 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.45] ([71.242.27.93]) by vms046.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2 HotFix 0.04 (built Dec 24 2004)) with ESMTPA id <0IM900DY4UGQMF70@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for plug@lists.phillylinux.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 21:48:27 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 22:43:07 -0400 From: "Stewart B. Lone" Subject: Re: [PLUG] turntable to CD In-reply-to: <4319C1BA.4040204@verizon.net> To: art.alexion@verizon.net, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Message-id: <431A5F3B.4000202@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en OpenPGP: id=6D709C25 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 References: <4319C1BA.4040204@verizon.net> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050317) X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: v592653589793238@verizon.net, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Art Alexion wrote: | Any recommendations for software for ripping from analog sources such as | turntables and cassette players, fixing things like pop and hiss and | then burning to CD? Doesn't need to be a single package; one for each | task is fine. | | I know Nero/Linux does this but is there an open source alternative. | | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | | ___________________________________________________________________________ | Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org | Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce | General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug If you download Nero/Linux from their site, its good for 30 days. I have a key to flip it over to permanent, making it free-as in beer?. Contact me off list if you want it. I had their windows program and that key was supposed to work for linux, and it did. Just as a point of view. I prefer K3b Stewart -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDGl86CDL5mm1wnCURAkRxAJ9G2SBfV2LV99N/p5ZY76Hy4BZPjwCeJP2Y CZE34HWW67x9FygoCkDJj1k= =kdCt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sun Sep 04 02:54:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 29012 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2005 02:54:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Sep 2005 02:54:58 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 28999 invoked by uid 107); 4 Sep 2005 02:54:55 -0000 Received: from [206.46.252.40] (HELO vms040pub.verizon.net) (206.46.252.40) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 22:54:55 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.45] ([71.242.27.93]) by vms040.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2 HotFix 0.04 (built Dec 24 2004)) with ESMTPA id <0IM900C2WUQXEF21@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> for plug@lists.phillylinux.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2005 21:54:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 22:49:15 -0400 From: "Stewart B. Lone" Subject: Re: [PLUG] turntable to CD In-reply-to: To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Message-id: <431A60AB.90905@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en OpenPGP: id=6D709C25 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 References: User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050317) X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: v592653589793238@verizon.net, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Doug Crompton wrote: | I doubt it. Pop and hissing are caused by scratches in the vinyl and worn | vinyl assuming you have a good cartridge and needle. Poor grounds or | ground loops cause hum. Funny how most kids today have no conception of | any of this. Like the vacumn tube it is a thing of the past! | | Doug | | On Sat, 3 Sep 2005, Chris wrote: | | |>Any popping or hissing come from the turntable is a bad ground on the table |>or bad needles. |> |> |>Chris S |>chris@jynx.net |>www.Jynx.net | | | **************************** | * Doug Crompton * | * Richboro, PA 18954 * | * 215-431-6307 * | * * | * doug@crompton.com * | * http://www.crompton.com * | **************************** | | | ___________________________________________________________________________ | Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org | Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce | General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug | Back in the "old days" we called it 60 cycle hum. I usually came from a bad or corroded connection resulting in a "floating ground". -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDGmCrCDL5mm1wnCURAp+IAJ9NWFUyRkbqE5wZU71vlCyljPDbAwCfbysW Y4y0IWAWbEP+QqBSjyZ0d9k= =Dl+f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sun Sep 04 04:07:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 2457 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2005 04:07:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Sep 2005 04:07:35 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 2445 invoked by uid 107); 4 Sep 2005 04:07:33 -0000 Received: from [204.127.202.56] (HELO sccrmhc12.comcast.net) (204.127.202.56) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 00:07:33 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (pcp09527262pcs.audubn01.nj.comcast.net[68.46.49.114]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20050904040712012003lpqde>; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 04:07:12 +0000 Message-ID: <431A72F0.6090907@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 00:07:12 -0400 From: Paul User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: v592653589793238@verizon.net, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: Re: [PLUG] turntable to CD References: <4319C1BA.4040204@verizon.net> <431A5F3B.4000202@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <431A5F3B.4000202@verizon.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Stewart B. Lone wrote: > If you download Nero/Linux from their site, its good for 30 days. I have > a key to flip it over to permanent, making it free-as in beer? Wouldn't that be called stealing beer? ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sun Sep 04 05:43:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 10428 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2005 05:43:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Sep 2005 05:43:09 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 10415 invoked by uid 107); 4 Sep 2005 05:43:06 -0000 Received: from [64.12.138.207] (HELO imo-m17.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.207) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 01:43:06 -0400 Received: from Artclemons@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r4.1.) id b.1d5.439c996b (15877) for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 01:42:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.44.12] ([69.249.241.212]) by air-id07.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id MAILINID74-3e05431a894e2a7; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 01:42:38 -0400 Message-ID: <431A894E.1060007@aol.com> Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 01:42:38 -0400 From: Art Clemons User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: Re: [PLUG] Anyone get Verizon DSL in the last 12 months? References: <1125794762.10137.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <431A5A08.1000903@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <431A5A08.1000903@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AOL-IP: 69.249.241.212 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org > We were told that the service would be activated in two weeks. We have > to wait for the modem to be shipped anyway and figure out how and where > to connect the filters. (I've not new to this, but my father has one > wall-mounted phone, which is a new situation. I might just split off > the line at the demarc or just inside the house.) It's always best to put a filter at the NID or what you call the demarc and then run a home run line to the modem from the NID. That means you don't need filters on every phone in the house. ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sun Sep 04 05:47:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 11124 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2005 05:47:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Sep 2005 05:47:55 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 11109 invoked by uid 107); 4 Sep 2005 05:47:53 -0000 Received: from [216.148.227.118] (HELO rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) (216.148.227.118) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 01:47:53 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.20] (pcp09527262pcs.audubn01.nj.comcast.net[68.46.49.114]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005090405473101500k7f5pe>; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 05:47:31 +0000 Message-ID: <431A8A77.5020506@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 01:47:35 -0400 From: gyoza@comcast.net User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: Re: [PLUG] Anyone get Verizon DSL in the last 12 months? References: <1125794762.10137.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <431A5A08.1000903@comcast.net> <431A894E.1060007@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <431A894E.1060007@aol.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Art Clemons wrote: >It's always best to put a filter at the NID or what you call the demarc >and then run a home run line to the modem from the NID. That means you >don't need filters on every phone in the house. > > > Yeah, I think I will do that. This is a goofy question: What, if anything, would happen if two filters were installed in series? ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sun Sep 04 07:06:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 17783 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2005 07:06:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Sep 2005 07:06:05 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 17773 invoked by uid 107); 4 Sep 2005 07:06:02 -0000 Received: from [129.25.7.60] (HELO einstein.physics.drexel.edu) (129.25.7.60) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 03:06:02 -0400 Received: from silicon.physics.drexel.edu (silicon.physics.drexel.edu [129.25.8.33]) by einstein.physics.drexel.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C3DAD8647 for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 07:00:20 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 03:05:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Avijit Ghosh To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: Re: [PLUG] Anyone get Verizon DSL in the last 12 months? In-Reply-To: <431A8A77.5020506@comcast.net> Message-ID: References: <1125794762.10137.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <431A5A08.1000903@comcast.net> <431A894E.1060007@aol.com> <431A8A77.5020506@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org > > This is a goofy question: What, if anything, would happen if two filters > were installed in series? Its a filter, I dont think anything will happen in the grand scheme of things. The first filter blanks out the bit that interferes w/ the 8k bandwidth (or whatever it is) that is reserved for audio, and the 2nd filter also filters out the same thing to make it, well doubly clean so assuming the first filter works the 2nd makes it equivalent? =avi= ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sun Sep 04 09:04:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 28493 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2005 09:04:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Sep 2005 09:04:53 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 28361 invoked by uid 107); 4 Sep 2005 09:04:41 -0000 Received: from [66.92.235.113] (HELO sativa.seanius.net) (66.92.235.113) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 05:04:41 -0400 Received: by sativa.seanius.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7846415834; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 05:04:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 05:04:12 -0400 From: sean finney To: art.alexion@verizon.net, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: Re: [PLUG] turntable to CD Message-ID: <20050904090412.GA25329@seanius.net> References: <4319C1BA.4040204@verizon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4319C1BA.4040204@verizon.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1787515511==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org --===============1787515511== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn" Content-Disposition: inline --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 11:31:06AM -0400, Art Alexion wrote: > Any recommendations for software for ripping from analog sources such as > turntables and cassette players, fixing things like pop and hiss and > then burning to CD? Doesn't need to be a single package; one for each > task is fine. perhaps this would be of interest? Package: gwc Description: Audio file denoiser The Gnome Wave Cleaner (gwc) is an application that helps you in getting rid of noise and clicks in audio files. This is most commonly used when translating your old vinyl or old tapes to a digital format, but it can be applied to every soundfile that has a more or less constant noise level. sean --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDGriMynjLPm522B0RApxDAKCDEvx9MTdBhni6fdFC5/nSBViD8ACfczYZ b2BErNsehmF+XUvbS3Tkg94= =l668 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn-- --===============1787515511== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug --===============1787515511==-- From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sun Sep 04 14:31:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 25133 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2005 14:31:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Sep 2005 14:31:01 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 25123 invoked by uid 107); 4 Sep 2005 14:30:59 -0000 Received: from [192.107.41.63] (HELO rdsmtp.iglou.com) (192.107.41.63) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 10:30:59 -0400 Received: from [192.107.41.8] (helo=iglou2.iglou.com) by rdsmtp.iglou.com with esmtp (8.12.5/8.12.5) id 1EBvW2-0003kA-JD for plug@lists.phillylinux.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 10:30:38 -0400 Received: from [67.141.9.82] (helo=[192.168.1.100]) by iglou2.iglou.com with esmtpa (8.12.5/8.12.5) id 1EBvW2-0001pE-0m by authid with auth_plain for plug@lists.phillylinux.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2005 10:30:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [PLUG] Anyone get Verizon DSL in the last 12 months? From: Jeff McAdams To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List In-Reply-To: References: <1125794762.10137.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <431A5A08.1000903@comcast.net> <431A894E.1060007@aol.com> <431A8A77.5020506@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 10:30:16 -0400 Message-Id: <1125844216.7949.28.camel@jeff-laptop.users.appriss.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 67.141.9.82 X-IgLou-Customer: verified X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0746527498==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org --===============0746527498== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-VrcMEvqAnnO6+M2kHJht" --=-VrcMEvqAnnO6+M2kHJht Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 03:05 -0400, Avijit Ghosh wrote: > > This is a goofy question: What, if anything, would happen if two filter= s > > were installed in series? > Its a filter, I dont think anything will happen in the grand=20 > scheme of things. The first filter blanks out the bit that interferes w/=20 > the 8k bandwidth (or whatever it is) that is reserved for audio, and the=20 > 2nd filter also filters out the same thing to make it, well doubly clean=20 > so assuming the first filter works the 2nd makes it equivalent? My only concern would be that, since these filters work well down in the realm of analog waveforms, that the effect might not be that clear-cut. The filters are low-pass filters, meaning that the lower frequencies get passed, and higher frequencies get attentuated out. Filters like this can never act in a completely binary manner...ie, it either passes the frequency completely unattenuated, or completely shuts down that frequency. Instead, they roll off the frequencies...at a certain point the frequencies start to be attentuated a little bit, and the frequencies get higher, they get attenuated more and more, until, at some point, the frequencies are essentially being completely eliminated. So, in that range between where the attenuation starts and where its complete, a second filter will have an effect beyond what just a single one would. Essentially, its going to make that roll off about doubly steep. This might be good, actually, but I assume these filters are designed to have the best possible effect for DSL and POTS on the same line...so you may end up chopping out some of the high end of your conversations with a second filter. I have no idea if it will be enough to be noticeable, but its something to be aware of. --=20 Jeff McAdams "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin --=-VrcMEvqAnnO6+M2kHJht Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDGwT3XkUmzpmSrfwRAn/QAKCHzlzZFfNDmZHbh6zcwshAMN5ouQCfXdTD R+UH+hzSGB1X0/VkjE7mhU0= =93ZU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-VrcMEvqAnnO6+M2kHJht-- --===============0746527498== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug --===============0746527498==-- From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sun Sep 04 23:43:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 5920 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2005 23:43:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Sep 2005 23:43:00 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 5837 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2005 23:42:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Sep 2005 23:42:55 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug-announce@phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 5812 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Sep 2005 23:42:53 -0000 Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 19:42:53 -0400 From: "Michael C. Toren" To: plug-announce@phillylinux.org Message-ID: <20050904234253.GB3954@netisland.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Moon: The Moon is Waxing Crescent (1% of Full) X-BeenThere: plug-announce@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Cc: Ken Brown Subject: [PLUG] [plug-announce] September 7, 2005: "Greenplum Bizgres Overview" X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Announcements , Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org /(_________________________________ / ( _____) _a'{ /__( The Philadelphia Area (_____|_______________________)\ `/\\/ __( Linux Users Group (PLUG) | ) \ (/ __( cordially invites you to | our next meeting, Wednesday )__\ }`a_ <_____(___________________________| September 7, 2005, at the )__ \//\' | University of the Sciences )__ \) |_____________________________)_____> The topic of this month's meeting is "Greenplum Bizgres Overview", presented by Ken Brown. An outline of the talk can be found at , and more information about Bizgres can be found at bizgres.org. The meeting will take place from 7-9PM, at: University of the Sciences in Philadelphia (USP) Griffith Hall C 600 South 43rd Street Philadelphia, PA 19104-4495 USP is located in University City. Driving directi