From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri Sep 01 15:29:34 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 12615 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2006 15:29:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Sep 2006 15:29:33 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 12574 invoked by uid 107); 1 Sep 2006 15:29:30 -0000 Received: from [209.73.179.140] (HELO smtp102.vzn.mail.dcn.yahoo.com) (209.73.179.140) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:29:30 -0400 Received: (qmail 70370 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2006 15:29:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (art.alexion@verizon.net@141.152.249.55 with plain) by smtp102.vzn.mail.dcn.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Sep 2006 15:28:25 -0000 From: Art Alexion To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 11:25:27 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 X-Face: (bP:h+dRW\UQ?yvMHu.P.yiTwg_9h$[F, t, b|0nj-#LNTplvd$9zmLf/1lD|H, =?utf-8?q?b=7C4*I118=0A=09=26sZL*ihxAjI-=26KwxaA=5CWG=26E!=23CI=5E?=@fF+&:>rS1}C(r7Izfdg$*Wb$9\6vw1L[%(i\"=?utf-8?q?xRB3=0A=09b=2Ep+W16=3F!i=5F?=(XYq>@jvtq"QKYJ9G8EQqVxnw@{Q]L)QLtM7aPy{H=?utf-8?q?M=0A=09=2E=2E6O8lJs?=>?OalracA=Y!$Y{4q':r%t$ft+)=?utf-8?q?=7CB=3FF=5BJzCf=0A=09nXyAp-O5=7EG=23y72mJ8=5E2HP2D7o=26/O=25oD?=(G}Fpv>Qh MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200609011125.29936.art.alexion@verizon.net> Subject: [PLUG] Printing Info X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: art.alexion@verizon.net, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0550284783==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org --===============0550284783== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart48234090.kYHMLo0J8u"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart48234090.kYHMLo0J8u Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I have an old Epson Stylus Color 740 attached via CUPS. The printing used = to=20 be great on Red Hat 7.x (lpr/foomatic), but the graphics are unacceptably=20 dark and over-saturated on Kubuntu (CUPS/foomatic). http://linuxprinting.o= rg=20 recommends the gimp-print driver, but the download link says they are=20 distributed with the printing system packages and does not provide an=20 additional link. Linuxprinting seems to have a wealth of info on compatibility, but little o= n=20 configuration hints to maximize quality. Can anyone recommend another site that can help with this? There seem to b= e a=20 lot of options. Do I have to burn through a cartridge or two using trial a= nd=20 error? =2D-=20 _____________________________________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment - signature.asc - is my electronic signature; no need for=20 alarm. Info @=20 http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html _____________________________________________________________ --nextPart48234090.kYHMLo0J8u Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUARPhQ6ULG/oYII0YuAQKTMQP/dngaNEbUdaHCDifKi1fbEjxIT7befq/l EriKSrV2CeYadxcaKu5sxDmLXqaxZZJ8VeV8/0uq8X0nD04KHRcxdmf/EUM4cN8G hwk49yqYI/gFHn/D92K748BxXeeQWAKNT8vs1KIt3g5jbXkH+KVbLQtgNtXmdv34 4+LxjYl3aFs= =7kA5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart48234090.kYHMLo0J8u-- --===============0550284783== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug --===============0550284783==-- From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri Sep 01 16:15:50 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 19560 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2006 16:15:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Sep 2006 16:15:49 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 19513 invoked by uid 107); 1 Sep 2006 16:15:45 -0000 Received: from [216.148.227.152] (HELO rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) (216.148.227.152) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:15:45 -0400 Received: from [192.168.15.99] (c-68-57-18-152.hsd1.nj.comcast.net[68.57.18.152]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20060901161517m1200ns9m8e>; Fri, 1 Sep 2006 16:15:21 +0000 Message-ID: <44F85C94.3010306@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:15:16 -0400 From: gyoza@comcast.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: art.alexion@verizon.net, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: Re: [PLUG] Printing Info References: <200609011125.29936.art.alexion@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <200609011125.29936.art.alexion@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org One time I had to generate a PPD file on LinuxPrinting.org and install it through CUPS Web interface. I don't know if that helps you. Art Alexion wrote: > I have an old Epson Stylus Color 740 attached via CUPS. The printing used to > be great on Red Hat 7.x (lpr/foomatic), but the graphics are unacceptably > dark and over-saturated on Kubuntu (CUPS/foomatic). http://linuxprinting.org > recommends the gimp-print driver, but the download link says they are > distributed with the printing system packages and does not provide an > additional link. > > Linuxprinting seems to have a wealth of info on compatibility, but little on > configuration hints to maximize quality. > > Can anyone recommend another site that can help with this? There seem to be a > lot of options. Do I have to burn through a cartridge or two using trial and > error? > > ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sat Sep 02 14:07:20 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 26799 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2006 14:07:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Sep 2006 14:07:20 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 26763 invoked by uid 107); 2 Sep 2006 14:07:16 -0000 Received: from [208.97.132.60] (HELO swarthymail-a2.dreamhost.com) (208.97.132.60) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 10:07:16 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-69-142-94-59.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [69.142.94.59]) by swarthymail-a2.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7ACEB7EB for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 07:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 09:05:22 -0400 From: Toby DiPasquale To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org Message-ID: <20060902130522.GG11727@adidas.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [PLUG] Followup to Google Internals talk X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Hi all, Google has just published a paper on BigTable in advance of the OSDI 2006 conference where they are presenting about it: http://labs.google.com/papers/bigtable.html On that same site you can find the GFS and MapReduce papers, as well. -- Toby DiPasquale ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sun Sep 03 12:22:10 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 21308 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2006 12:22:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 2006 12:22:08 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 21272 invoked by uid 107); 3 Sep 2006 12:22:05 -0000 Received: from [209.73.179.141] (HELO smtp103.vzn.mail.dcn.yahoo.com) (209.73.179.141) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 08:22:05 -0400 Received: (qmail 89399 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2006 12:21:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (art.alexion@verizon.net@141.152.249.55 with plain) by smtp103.vzn.mail.dcn.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2006 12:21:43 -0000 From: Art Alexion To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 08:21:04 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 X-Face: (bP:h+dRW\UQ?yvMHu.P.yiTwg_9h$[F, t, b|0nj-#LNTplvd$9zmLf/1lD|H, =?utf-8?q?b=7C4*I118=0A=09=26sZL*ihxAjI-=26KwxaA=5CWG=26E!=23CI=5E?=@fF+&:>rS1}C(r7Izfdg$*Wb$9\6vw1L[%(i\"=?utf-8?q?xRB3=0A=09b=2Ep+W16=3F!i=5F?=(XYq>@jvtq"QKYJ9G8EQqVxnw@{Q]L)QLtM7aPy{H=?utf-8?q?M=0A=09=2E=2E6O8lJs?=>?OalracA=Y!$Y{4q':r%t$ft+)=?utf-8?q?=7CB=3FF=5BJzCf=0A=09nXyAp-O5=7EG=23y72mJ8=5E2HP2D7o=26/O=25oD?=(G}Fpv>Qh MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200609030821.19914.art.alexion@verizon.net> Subject: [PLUG] Small LAN problem X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: art.alexion@verizon.net, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0543858257==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org --===============0543858257== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1486490.ks7B5CtZst"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart1486490.ks7B5CtZst Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I shut down two computers on a two computer network yesterday to fix a ligh= t=20 fixture, and have not been able to connect since. No ping. Samba protocol. Two NICs on each machine -- one for connection to Internet router, and the= =20 other for the LAN, connected to an old, but reliable hub. Both computers seem to think the LAN NIC is OK. The ethernet connection=20 lights are on on the hub. Both are accessing the router fine. Any suggestions for tools to use to diagnose the problem? =2D-=20 _____________________________________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment - signature.asc - is my electronic signature; no need for=20 alarm. Info @=20 http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html _____________________________________________________________ --nextPart1486490.ks7B5CtZst Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUARPrIv0LG/oYII0YuAQJVwgP+PzlDE+3yB+ulOYhdLnWElMxH+jkqJYQX WQlS5u/uXw+bIp499xCwT0vXeWuElkYahFkFGgyIrOwvSErY4TE+Ixdqp7ZjXo8T fYBu4/2jWlQwMxNjXQHwX7U7DBS7rUieR33M2FzpOV9rnKhPyK56Bfn1bn0RUfad /hS/p/T/RnU= =4sA4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1486490.ks7B5CtZst-- --===============0543858257== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug --===============0543858257==-- From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sun Sep 03 15:03:46 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 6949 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2006 15:03:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 2006 15:03:45 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 6913 invoked by uid 107); 3 Sep 2006 15:03:42 -0000 Received: from [204.127.192.85] (HELO rwcrmhc15.comcast.net) (204.127.192.85) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:03:42 -0400 Received: from [192.168.15.99] (c-68-57-18-152.hsd1.nj.comcast.net[68.57.18.152]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with ESMTP id <20060903150321m15008clgoe>; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:03:21 +0000 Message-ID: <44FAEEB8.7030608@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:03:20 -0400 From: gyoza@comcast.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: art.alexion@verizon.net, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: Re: [PLUG] Small LAN problem References: <200609030821.19914.art.alexion@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <200609030821.19914.art.alexion@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org I'd start by simplifying the network by removing the redundant NICs. Art Alexion wrote: > Two NICs on each machine -- one for connection to Internet router, and the > other for the LAN, connected to an old, but reliable hub. > > Any suggestions for tools to use to diagnose the problem? > ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sun Sep 03 20:24:51 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 19451 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2006 20:24:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 2006 20:24:50 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 19411 invoked by uid 107); 3 Sep 2006 20:24:47 -0000 Received: from [66.92.55.190] (HELO pond.purple.com) (66.92.55.190) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:24:47 -0400 Received: from jeff by pond.purple.com with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GJyVj-0002H4-Th for plug@lists.phillylinux.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:24:07 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:24:07 -0400 From: Jeff Abrahamson To: PLUG Message-ID: <20060903202407.GL27965@purple.com> Mail-Followup-To: PLUG MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Subject: [PLUG] linksys router mucks with dns X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0717964098==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org --===============0717964098== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="hHWLQfXTYDoKhP50" Content-Disposition: inline --hHWLQfXTYDoKhP50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I purchased a linksys router yesterday ($40 at staples, does 802.11[bg], routes DSL to NAT'ed network, includes dhcp server, has 4 port hub, seems like a good deal). The installation instructions had a bunch of errors, including bad links on the install CD. But ultimately it was easy once I figured it out: connect to an inside port, get a dhcp lease, and http to http://www.routerlogin.net/. It seems reasonable that the unsetup router offers dhcp leases with it as dns and then resolves that dns query. The odd thing is that, now that the router is set up, my regular machine resolves routerlogin.net and www.routerlogin.net to the router. But how can that be? The router isn't my dns server. I'm curious, first, how the router is likely intercepting such queries, and, second, how to decide whether I can trust my router on other matters if it is willing to do such things as this. (The second is probably unanswerable by mortals, but seems worth asking.) I am on 192.168.0.7, where I designate myself as DNS: jeff@astra:~ $ cat /etc/resolv.conf search purple.com nameserver 192.168.0.7 jeff@astra:~ $ Querying DNS about routerlogin.net goes to root servers and comes back immediately with a private address! (This is not what happens on a network without this router.) So the router is not network neutral. This feels like a small bit of insidious evil on the part of linksys, since they don't document exactly when they plan not to pass my bits as I expect. Am I being unreasonable? jeff@astra:~ $ dig routerlogin.net ; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> routerlogin.net ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 46799 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 13, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;routerlogin.net. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: routerlogin.net. 3 IN A 192.168.0.254 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: net. 110943 IN NS L.GTLD-SERVERS.net. net. 110943 IN NS M.GTLD-SERVERS.net. net. 110943 IN NS A.GTLD-SERVERS.net. net. 110943 IN NS B.GTLD-SERVERS.net. net. 110943 IN NS C.GTLD-SERVERS.net. net. 110943 IN NS D.GTLD-SERVERS.net. net. 110943 IN NS E.GTLD-SERVERS.net. net. 110943 IN NS F.GTLD-SERVERS.net. net. 110943 IN NS G.GTLD-SERVERS.net. net. 110943 IN NS H.GTLD-SERVERS.net. net. 110943 IN NS I.GTLD-SERVERS.net. net. 110943 IN NS J.GTLD-SERVERS.net. net. 110943 IN NS K.GTLD-SERVERS.net. ;; Query time: 6 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.0.7#53(192.168.0.7) ;; WHEN: Sun Sep 3 16:14:30 2006 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 270 jeff@astra:~ $ --=20 Jeff Jeff Abrahamson +1 215/837-2287 GPG fingerprint: 1A1A BA95 D082 A558 A276 63C6 16BF 8C4C 0D1D AE4B --hHWLQfXTYDoKhP50 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE+znnFr+MTA0drksRAmvYAJ9VACOoqXy+6DzVN1gO0eLuwoOkvwCeII58 GySHCM9LAsRL8cyqaiqT/ls= =wcv0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --hHWLQfXTYDoKhP50-- --===============0717964098== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug --===============0717964098==-- From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sun Sep 03 20:52:21 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 24353 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2006 20:52:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 2006 20:52:21 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 24317 invoked by uid 107); 3 Sep 2006 20:52:18 -0000 Received: from [208.97.132.5] (HELO swarthymail-a2.dreamhost.com) (208.97.132.5) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:52:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-69-142-94-59.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [69.142.94.59]) by swarthymail-a2.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98062EB7DB for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:50:24 -0400 From: Toby DiPasquale To: PLUG Subject: Re: [PLUG] linksys router mucks with dns Message-ID: <20060903195024.GJ11727@adidas.localdomain> References: <20060903202407.GL27965@purple.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060903202407.GL27965@purple.com> X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 04:24:07PM -0400, Jeff Abrahamson wrote: > The odd thing is that, now that the router is set up, my regular > machine resolves routerlogin.net and www.routerlogin.net to the > router. But how can that be? The router isn't my dns server. > > I'm curious, first, how the router is likely intercepting such > queries, and, second, how to decide whether I can trust my router on > other matters if it is willing to do such things as this. (The second > is probably unanswerable by mortals, but seems worth asking.) If its a WRT54G* model, you can easily hack the firmware and remove this "feature", if you so choose. And it would even have more real features you might want (e.g. ssh into the router itself, real tc control, etc). > I am on 192.168.0.7, where I designate myself as DNS: > > jeff@astra:~ $ cat /etc/resolv.conf > search purple.com > nameserver 192.168.0.7 > jeff@astra:~ $ > > Querying DNS about routerlogin.net goes to root servers and comes back > immediately with a private address! (This is not what happens on a > network without this router.) So the router is not network neutral. > This feels like a small bit of insidious evil on the part of linksys, > since they don't document exactly when they plan not to pass my bits > as I expect. Am I being unreasonable? Slightly, although I'd feel the same way. To me, its not about what they've done, but what they would do in the future. They are already hijacking a competitor's site to get that done in the first place (read on). core:~> whois routerlogin.net [...] Registrant: Netgear, Inc. 4500 Great America Parkway Santa Clara, California 95054 United States Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: ROUTERLOGIN.NET Created on: 22-Jan-04 Expires on: 22-Jan-14 Last Updated on: 18-Jun-04 Administrative Contact: Sallette, Al al.sallette@netgear.com Netgear, Inc. 4500 Great America Parkway Santa Clara, California 95054 United States (408) 907-8000 Fax -- Technical Contact: Sallette, Al al.sallette@netgear.com Netgear, Inc. 4500 Great America Parkway Santa Clara, California 95054 United States (408) 907-8000 Fax -- Domain servers in listed order: PARK17.SECURESERVER.NET PARK18.SECURESERVER.NET core:~> Netgear pays the bills and Linksys gets a free ride ;-) Presumably, this domain was registered with this purpose in mind. When not behind a router of this nature, the domain redirects to www.netgear.com. core:~> dig routerlogin.net ; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> routerlogin.net ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 57256 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;routerlogin.net. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: routerlogin.net. 3600 IN A 64.202.189.170 ;; Query time: 77 msec ;; SERVER: 68.87.64.146#53(68.87.64.146) ;; WHEN: Sun Sep 3 16:44:53 2006 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 49 core:~> -- Toby DiPasquale ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sun Sep 03 21:10:49 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 27329 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2006 21:10:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 2006 21:10:48 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 27287 invoked by uid 107); 3 Sep 2006 21:10:45 -0000 Received: from [66.93.22.232] (HELO cobija.connexer.com) (66.93.22.232) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 17:10:45 -0400 Received: from [10.26.0.102] (unknown [81.170.234.204]) by cobija.connexer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56EC17C470 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:10:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [PLUG] linksys router mucks with dns From: sean finney To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List In-Reply-To: <20060903195024.GJ11727@adidas.localdomain> References: <20060903202407.GL27965@purple.com> <20060903195024.GJ11727@adidas.localdomain> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 23:10:19 +0200 Message-Id: <1157317819.7138.8.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1836277432==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org --===============1836277432== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-2GgG4Hx4mUMhzb7l4NNs" --=-2GgG4Hx4mUMhzb7l4NNs Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 15:50 -0400, Toby DiPasquale wrote: > If its a WRT54G* model, you can easily hack the firmware and remove this > "feature", if you so choose. And it would even have more real features yo= u > might want (e.g. ssh into the router itself, real tc control, etc). not necessarily... certain model revisions use a non-linux firmware which can't be flashed. but on the bright side there are other non-wrtg models that can be flashed. you probably want to check openwrt.org for whether or not your specific model/revision is supported. sean --=-2GgG4Hx4mUMhzb7l4NNs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBE+0S7ynjLPm522B0RAkFNAJ90VhJWB0q3Tv4L6XqJ5vDjo8OuRACfaDAx 4fYO9mLuLqUyFoqZwasUloQ= =oLM/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-2GgG4Hx4mUMhzb7l4NNs-- --===============1836277432== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug --===============1836277432==-- From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sun Sep 03 22:30:15 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 5170 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2006 22:30:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 2006 22:30:14 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 5134 invoked by uid 107); 3 Sep 2006 22:30:11 -0000 Received: from [209.73.179.139] (HELO smtp101.vzn.mail.dcn.yahoo.com) (209.73.179.139) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:30:11 -0400 Received: (qmail 18182 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2006 22:29:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (art.alexion@verizon.net@141.152.249.55 with plain) by smtp101.vzn.mail.dcn.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2006 22:29:41 -0000 From: Art Alexion To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: Re: [PLUG] Small LAN problem Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:29:23 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200609030821.19914.art.alexion@verizon.net> <44FAEEB8.7030608@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <44FAEEB8.7030608@comcast.net> X-Face: (bP:h+dRW\UQ?yvMHu.P.yiTwg_9h$[F, t, b|0nj-#LNTplvd$9zmLf/1lD|H, =?utf-8?q?b=7C4*I118=0A=09=26sZL*ihxAjI-=26KwxaA=5CWG=26E!=23CI=5E?=@fF+&:>rS1}C(r7Izfdg$*Wb$9\6vw1L[%(i\"=?utf-8?q?xRB3=0A=09b=2Ep+W16=3F!i=5F?=(XYq>@jvtq"QKYJ9G8EQqVxnw@{Q]L)QLtM7aPy{H=?utf-8?q?M=0A=09=2E=2E6O8lJs?=>?OalracA=Y!$Y{4q':r%t$ft+)=?utf-8?q?=7CB=3FF=5BJzCf=0A=09nXyAp-O5=7EG=23y72mJ8=5E2HP2D7o=26/O=25oD?=(G}Fpv>Qh MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200609031829.24035.art.alexion@verizon.net> X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: art.alexion@verizon.net, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1707423479==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org --===============1707423479== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1958714.M6WQsqt1dG"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart1958714.M6WQsqt1dG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 03 September 2006 11:03, gyoza@comcast.net wrote: > I'd start by simplifying the network by removing the redundant NICs. > > Art Alexion wrote: > > Two NICs on each machine -- one for connection to Internet router, and > > the other for the LAN, connected to an old, but reliable hub. > > > > Any suggestions for tools to use to diagnose the problem? I thought about that, but I am not sure what settings to apply to eth1 so t= hat=20 it accesses both. right now, eth0 is set to a static 192.168.0.3=20 via /etc/hosts, the other computer being set to 192.168.0.2. eth1 is set u= p=20 for dhcp via the router's dhcp server being 192.168.1.1. =2D-=20 _____________________________________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment - signature.asc - is my electronic signature; no need for=20 alarm. Info @=20 http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html _____________________________________________________________ --nextPart1958714.M6WQsqt1dG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUARPtXQ0LG/oYII0YuAQJilgP/b5SGfkQIP3wXANy0nP7RXT8uDO50MWdp 3WfCLNlX4+jIi0yUOnfGiIdfGvNqH+81IItJTTXMFCqyEgUtJF4pr6UyxBdgUI29 Uqg0l4GUHJomF58LCtWEjDy4Owoi/+end+X9dK8D+k+aMAiemGkvDcXdepj49pPz rk6D8PhZMx0= =uZfU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1958714.M6WQsqt1dG-- --===============1707423479== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug --===============1707423479==-- From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sun Sep 03 22:33:50 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 6045 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2006 22:33:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 2006 22:33:50 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 6005 invoked by uid 107); 3 Sep 2006 22:33:47 -0000 Received: from [209.73.179.139] (HELO smtp101.vzn.mail.dcn.yahoo.com) (209.73.179.139) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:33:47 -0400 Received: (qmail 27122 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2006 22:33:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (art.alexion@verizon.net@141.152.249.55 with plain) by smtp101.vzn.mail.dcn.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2006 22:33:25 -0000 From: Art Alexion To: PLUG Subject: Re: [PLUG] linksys router mucks with dns Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:33:08 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060903202407.GL27965@purple.com> In-Reply-To: <20060903202407.GL27965@purple.com> X-Face: (bP:h+dRW\UQ?yvMHu.P.yiTwg_9h$[F, t, b|0nj-#LNTplvd$9zmLf/1lD|H, =?utf-8?q?b=7C4*I118=0A=09=26sZL*ihxAjI-=26KwxaA=5CWG=26E!=23CI=5E?=@fF+&:>rS1}C(r7Izfdg$*Wb$9\6vw1L[%(i\"=?utf-8?q?xRB3=0A=09b=2Ep+W16=3F!i=5F?=(XYq>@jvtq"QKYJ9G8EQqVxnw@{Q]L)QLtM7aPy{H=?utf-8?q?M=0A=09=2E=2E6O8lJs?=>?OalracA=Y!$Y{4q':r%t$ft+)=?utf-8?q?=7CB=3FF=5BJzCf=0A=09nXyAp-O5=7EG=23y72mJ8=5E2HP2D7o=26/O=25oD?=(G}Fpv>Qh MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200609031833.09360.art.alexion@verizon.net> X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: art.alexion@verizon.net, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0491648107==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org --===============0491648107== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2970264.Y0PtI8NZaa"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart2970264.Y0PtI8NZaa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 03 September 2006 16:24, Jeff Abrahamson wrote: > The odd thing is that, now that the router is set up, my regular > machine resolves routerlogin.net and www.routerlogin.net to the > router. =A0But how can that be? =A0The router isn't my dns server. I have the same thing with my router, with dns resolving to 192.168.1.1, th= e=20 router's address. The problem was that there was a delay in dns lookups=20 going that route. I added verizon's dns servers, made them primary and=20 secondary and mad 192.168.1.1 tertiary. =2D-=20 _____________________________________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment - signature.asc - is my electronic signature; no need for=20 alarm. Info @=20 http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html _____________________________________________________________ --nextPart2970264.Y0PtI8NZaa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUARPtYJULG/oYII0YuAQK8cQP7BlhJ9yhpRPC7+Se2SVPyH5TZ6jDPXCx5 xoquc3t60Y3ifai5q+SgYjwGRYo8pcl3Yap+ECO/syjOYmXY3ZSthxul50vIidGv 6e3Mn1Po14LwefEn+JUNvC8c9l0jY+IPEGr6qmwREHxWsjUR4TlJIdf/2YAq+SyO 0pCmSF6NaxM= =Evdy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2970264.Y0PtI8NZaa-- --===============0491648107== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug --===============0491648107==-- From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sun Sep 03 23:27:16 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 12796 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2006 23:27:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 2006 23:27:13 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 12727 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2006 23:27:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 2006 23:27:08 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug-announce@phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 12700 invoked by uid 1000); 3 Sep 2006 23:27:06 -0000 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:27:06 -0400 From: "Michael C. Toren" To: plug-announce@phillylinux.org Message-ID: <20060903232706.GG22027@netisland.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Moon: The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (80% of Full) X-BeenThere: plug-announce@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Subject: [PLUG] [plug-announce] September 6th, 2006: "Web Development Frameworks" X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Announcements , Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org ._____. .__________________________________________________________________. | ._. | | .______________________________________________________________. | | |_| |_|_|___. _____ | | |___| |_____. | The Philadelphia Area Linux Users Group | ._. | | | .___|_|_| |_| | (PLUG) cordially invites you to our next .___| |_|_|_| | | ._____| |___| meeting, Wednesday, September 6th, 2006 | ._| |_______| | | | |_| | at The University of the Sciences in | |_|_|_| |___. | | |_____| Philadelphia, Pennsylvania |_______| |_. | | |______________________________________________________________| | | |_| | |__________________________________________________________________| |_____| The topic of this month's meeting is "Web Development Frameworks", presented by three speakers, each giving an overview of one framework they find worthwhile and interesting. Gabriel Farrell will be speaking about Django, Randy Schmidt will be speaking about Ruby on Rails, and Lee Marzke will be speaking about Zope. The meeting will take place from 7 to 9PM at: University of the Sciences in Philadelphia (USP) Griffith Hall C 600 South 43rd Street Philadelphia, PA 19104-4495 USP is located in University City. Driving directions are available at , or , both of which have an aerial view of the campus buildings. USP is also easily accessible by public transportation. There will be an open Question & Answer session at 7PM, prior to the main presentation at 8PM. This is an open meeting; all are welcome, and encouraged to attend. Usually, a number of members get together after the meeting at a nearby restaurant for food and perhaps a beer or two. Come join the camaraderie! _______________________________________________ plug-announce mailing list plug-announce@lists.phillylinux.org http://lists.netisland.net/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Mon Sep 04 12:33:33 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 1005 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2006 12:33:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Sep 2006 12:33:32 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 978 invoked by uid 107); 4 Sep 2006 12:33:28 -0000 Received: from [216.193.251.57] (HELO gs11.inmotionhosting.com) (216.193.251.57) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 08:33:28 -0400 Received: from cpanel by gs11.inmotionhosting.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1GKDdF-0008R6-Nj; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 05:32:53 -0700 Received: from 72.244.68.109 ([72.244.68.109]) by georgesbasement.com (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 05:32:52 -0700 Message-ID: <20060904053252.ovuq4uvg2za8g4og@georgesbasement.com> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 05:32:52 -0700 From: George Langford To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gs11.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.phillylinux.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32001 32001] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - georgesbasement.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: George Langford Subject: [PLUG] What's going on with OpenOffice ? X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Right when I thought that OpenOffice had reached a level on a par with MSWord, they took a couple steps backward ... anyone have a clue ? A few days ago, I discovered that I could insert a field, "page numbers," in my footers in OpenOffice Writer. I had previously lamented that when I tried something like that with headers, I got the words, "page numbers," instead of the actual numerals. Then, after running sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade, I find out today: 1. The footer entry for page numbers has gone back to the words. 2. I can no longer choose whether I'll have a different first-page header and different odd and even page headers. It looks as though apt-get has given me an earlier version of OpenOffice. When I was watching apt-get go through its paces, there was no mention of any activity with OpenOffice. Any way I can get this thing to work right again ? For the time being, my current report looks rather amateurish, and I'll be having to type in the header field on every page ... and then move 'em all around after just about every editorial change. Thanks, George Langford ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Tue Sep 05 01:56:15 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 27875 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2006 01:56:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Sep 2006 01:56:14 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 27834 invoked by uid 107); 5 Sep 2006 01:56:11 -0000 Received: from [66.249.82.232] (HELO wx-out-0506.google.com) (66.249.82.232) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:56:11 -0400 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s14so2071922wxc for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 18:56:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=gMzmDE/27DxoNJeQrDz+vFEv9Y7N41iQ9wXt7S4gHsJK7PnZn07CJCe0MQToW2wRNoDyE//DtMf8RUDN89ot5LBr1MeKrXf+3mgTAa7Bs8V9AS4fG5fAcGIvBL35LnIkjyiOLPXnlWziGfJtKMsKJlMp5h4rAERqpjNBoXRbpNY= Received: by 10.90.50.6 with SMTP id x6mr1207655agx; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 18:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.88.18 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:56:10 -0400 From: "K.S. Bhaskar" To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" Subject: Re: [PLUG] What's going on with OpenOffice ? In-Reply-To: <20060904053252.ovuq4uvg2za8g4og@georgesbasement.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060904053252.ovuq4uvg2za8g4og@georgesbasement.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2059cbb6e244777a X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org OOo and page numbers work fine for me (version 2.0.2-2ubuntu12.1 on Kubuntu Dapper Drake). What version of OOo are you using and on what version of what distribution of Linux? On x86? -- Bhaskar On 9/4/06, George Langford wrote: > Right when I thought that OpenOffice had reached a level on a par > with MSWord, they took a couple steps backward ... anyone have a clue ? > > A few days ago, I discovered that I could insert a field, "page numbers," > in my footers in OpenOffice Writer. I had previously lamented that when > I tried something like that with headers, I got the words, "page numbers," > instead of the actual numerals. Then, after running sudo apt-get update > and sudo apt-get upgrade, I find out today: > > 1. The footer entry for page numbers has gone back to the words. > 2. I can no longer choose whether I'll have a different first-page header > and different odd and even page headers. > > It looks as though apt-get has given me an earlier version of OpenOffice. > When I was watching apt-get go through its paces, there was no mention > of any activity with OpenOffice. > > Any way I can get this thing to work right again ? > > For the time being, my current report looks rather amateurish, and I'll > be having to type in the header field on every page ... and then move > 'em all around after just about every editorial change. > > Thanks, > George Langford > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Tue Sep 05 13:17:35 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 6590 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2006 13:17:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Sep 2006 13:17:32 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 6554 invoked by uid 107); 5 Sep 2006 13:17:29 -0000 Received: from [216.193.251.57] (HELO gs11.inmotionhosting.com) (216.193.251.57) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:17:29 -0400 Received: from cpanel by gs11.inmotionhosting.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1GKanN-0004Ms-Hv; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 06:16:53 -0700 Received: from 72.244.68.109 ([72.244.68.109]) by georgesbasement.com (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 06:16:53 -0700 Message-ID: <20060905061653.f4vefrmvhx344s4o@georgesbasement.com> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 06:16:53 -0700 From: George Langford To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gs11.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.phillylinux.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32001 32001] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - georgesbasement.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: George Langford Subject: [PLUG] Re: What's going on with OpenOffice ? X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Yesterday I blamed debian for screwing up OpenOffice with the observation: > 1. The footer entry for page numbers has gone back to the words. > 2. I can no longer choose whether I'll have a different first-page > header and different odd and even page headers. I've since discovered that I can toggle between "view fields" and something more normal. "Contr +F9" will do the same thing. When I do this in MSWord97, I think that I get to see the fields _and_ the data, which is less confusing. An alternative would be to color the field names differently from the text. My second problem remains unsolved. "Default" headers & footers just don't fit the bill. Are the former choices, "default, different first page, even & odd," hiding somewhere, too ? George Langford ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Tue Sep 05 21:01:05 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 2871 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2006 21:01:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Sep 2006 21:01:04 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 2833 invoked by uid 107); 5 Sep 2006 21:01:02 -0000 Received: from [64.191.55.69] (HELO logkeeper.com) (64.191.55.69) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:01:02 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by logkeeper.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D030728E4F for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:00:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from logkeeper.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ivoss [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23453-09 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:00:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.36] (ismtp.afilias.com [216.217.55.254]) by logkeeper.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A7129FAE for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:00:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Valentine To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:00:22 -0400 Message-Id: <1157490022.11077.20.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at logkeeper.com Subject: [PLUG] comcast scp upstream stalling? X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org I was talking with a friend and fellow Linux user the other day, when the subject of Comcast came up, and their "Comcastic" service. We both had the same experience, so I wanted to bounce it off this list to see if there are others out there.. How is your upstream scp performance? Anytime either of us upload something via scp, to any server, the transfer stalls repeatedly. -- ///////////////////////////////////// Alex Valentine asv@ivoss.com aim: asv108vv jabber: asv@jabber.org http://www.alexvalentine.org ///////////////////////////////////// ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Tue Sep 05 21:33:18 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 6958 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2006 21:33:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Sep 2006 21:33:18 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 6922 invoked by uid 107); 5 Sep 2006 21:33:15 -0000 Received: from [216.193.251.57] (HELO gs11.inmotionhosting.com) (216.193.251.57) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:33:15 -0400 Received: from cpanel by gs11.inmotionhosting.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1GKiX9-00035I-Tp; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:32:40 -0700 Received: from 72.244.68.109 ([72.244.68.109]) by georgesbasement.com (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:32:39 -0700 Message-ID: <20060905143239.kl1rttdqh40gsc04@georgesbasement.com> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:32:39 -0700 From: George Langford To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gs11.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.phillylinux.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32001 32001] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - georgesbasement.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: George Langford Subject: [PLUG] Re: What's going on with OpenOffice ? X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Bhaskar asked: > What version of OOo are you using and on what > version of what distribution of Linux? On x86? My OS is debian (Sarge) and OpenOffice is version 1.1; that's what sudo apt-get lets me have. The hardware is an older PC with oodles of RAM and hard disk/swap space. I've just finished the report that precipitated my Q's, and I made full use of the page numbers and page count with no further hassles. I also found out that in order to make the first page's header different from the rest, I have to create a whole new page profile for that page. I'm sure this is best done on a fresh new document (i.e., template) and that it would be messy to fix at this stage on a completed document. Lots of questions generated by that page layout menu ... I did download to my desktop a copy of the pdf OpenOffice.org User's Guide for Version 2.x, and it's quite useful. George Langford ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Wed Sep 06 00:48:31 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 30272 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2006 00:48:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Sep 2006 00:48:30 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 30236 invoked by uid 1000); 6 Sep 2006 00:48:27 -0000 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:48:27 -0400 From: "Michael C. Toren" To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: Re: [PLUG] comcast scp upstream stalling? Message-ID: <20060906004827.GB346@netisland.net> References: <1157490022.11077.20.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1157490022.11077.20.camel@localhost> X-Moon: The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (95% of Full) X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 05:00:22PM -0400, Alex Valentine wrote: > I was talking with a friend and fellow Linux user the other day, when > the subject of Comcast came up, and their "Comcastic" service. > > We both had the same experience, so I wanted to bounce it off this list > to see if there are others out there.. > > How is your upstream scp performance? > > Anytime either of us upload something via scp, to any server, the > transfer stalls repeatedly. It's slow, but I haven't had it stall on me. I normally use rsync along with the --bwlimit=30 command line option, to leave enough of the upstream available for other interactive session. -mct ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Wed Sep 06 01:20:39 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 2660 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2006 01:20:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Sep 2006 01:20:39 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 2624 invoked by uid 107); 6 Sep 2006 01:20:34 -0000 Received: from [209.73.179.140] (HELO smtp102.vzn.mail.dcn.yahoo.com) (209.73.179.140) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:20:34 -0400 Received: (qmail 4505 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2006 01:19:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (art.alexion@verizon.net@141.152.249.55 with plain) by smtp102.vzn.mail.dcn.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2006 01:19:58 -0000 From: Art Alexion To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: Re: [PLUG] Re: What's going on with OpenOffice ? Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:19:37 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060905061653.f4vefrmvhx344s4o@georgesbasement.com> In-Reply-To: <20060905061653.f4vefrmvhx344s4o@georgesbasement.com> X-Face: (bP:h+dRW\UQ?yvMHu.P.yiTwg_9h$[F, t, b|0nj-#LNTplvd$9zmLf/1lD|H, =?utf-8?q?b=7C4*I118=0A=09=26sZL*ihxAjI-=26KwxaA=5CWG=26E!=23CI=5E?=@fF+&:>rS1}C(r7Izfdg$*Wb$9\6vw1L[%(i\"=?utf-8?q?xRB3=0A=09b=2Ep+W16=3F!i=5F?=(XYq>@jvtq"QKYJ9G8EQqVxnw@{Q]L)QLtM7aPy{H=?utf-8?q?M=0A=09=2E=2E6O8lJs?=>?OalracA=Y!$Y{4q':r%t$ft+)=?utf-8?q?=7CB=3FF=5BJzCf=0A=09nXyAp-O5=7EG=23y72mJ8=5E2HP2D7o=26/O=25oD?=(G}Fpv>Qh MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200609052119.38676.art.alexion@verizon.net> X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: art.alexion@verizon.net, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0610193735==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org --===============0610193735== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart144689165.nRPJDpUc9m"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart144689165.nRPJDpUc9m Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 05 September 2006 09:16, George Langford wrote: > Yesterday I blamed debian for screwing up OpenOffice with the > > observation: > > 1. The footer entry for page numbers has gone back to the words. > > 2. I can no longer choose whether I'll have a different first-page > > header and different odd and even page headers. > > I've since discovered that I can toggle between "view fields" and > something more normal. "Contr +F9" will do the same thing. When I > do this in MSWord97, I think that I get to see the fields _and_ > the data, which is less confusing. =20 Not my versions of word 97 or 2k. Its either {field codes} or field result= s. > An alternative would be to=20 > color the field names differently from the text. I have that in OpenOffice. Turn on field shading in the options. > > My second problem remains unsolved. "Default" headers & footers > just don't fit the bill. Are the former choices, "default, different > first page, even & odd," hiding somewhere, too ? Check out page styles. =2D-=20 _____________________________________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment - signature.asc - is my electronic signature; no need for=20 alarm. Info @=20 http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html _____________________________________________________________ --nextPart144689165.nRPJDpUc9m Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUARP4iKkLG/oYII0YuAQLMCwP7BX2zLIPD728zaiMwvJ+cc/P9uRC5evBv iXctgl3e30Scjj6D9QrYhWDw3ddNJLgkFnWybMvmUSO3mI+rqoAJYMS4dVuaoa8d lLjLc4tQIWmOphsRbii2jiEsqPRxEozkMWuGkRVituGv6DNBgYnPqtiRSe9TXP9P CGNX/KLiboU= =BHPX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart144689165.nRPJDpUc9m-- --===============0610193735== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug --===============0610193735==-- From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Wed Sep 06 02:48:11 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 11717 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2006 02:48:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Sep 2006 02:48:08 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 11677 invoked by uid 107); 6 Sep 2006 02:48:05 -0000 Received: from [64.233.162.204] (HELO nz-out-0102.google.com) (64.233.162.204) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 22:48:05 -0400 Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id o37so1047987nzf for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:48:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=A8zH4/Cm7GXiJEt2LCkty4ZyFf0lYs1ogg3wRgOAAsJ6g/MTsV3p+rRSlK5zJciSEWfDmxKsqU1dG9W0Qht63xB85u24cLw3+8+ZRRhp6jPbgv+2BDcXHZtWAFzM0sBXORqznM5bvWsYWq/kAQbXSPmNYoGF8MmldQ5nU4C9Www= Received: by 10.65.103.17 with SMTP id f17mr8068584qbm; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.225.14 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <99b581bb0609051948l487c4a3bkc312d4247ab0ebdb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:48:03 -0400 From: "Randy Schmidt" To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 93d9dabf89032b35 Subject: [PLUG] Ruby on Rails Presentation X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org All: I have uploaded my presentation to http://www.umlatte.com/PLUG/presentation.html If anybody has any questions/comments, please let me know! My hope is that I'll be able to go over some highlights of Ruby on Rails and then give a demo of how to make a very basic application (if there is a way to hook my laptop up to the projector) Thanks! -- Randy Schmidt x@altorg.com 267.334.6833 ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Wed Sep 06 19:25:23 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 7222 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2006 19:25:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Sep 2006 19:25:21 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 7186 invoked by uid 107); 6 Sep 2006 19:25:19 -0000 Received: from [205.237.194.34] (HELO mxout-03.mxes.net) (205.237.194.34) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:25:19 -0400 Received: from [10.24.3.2] (unknown [66.92.238.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51EB53949 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:24:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <44FF2088.3050207@marzke.net> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:24:56 -0400 From: Lee Marzke User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List References: <99b581bb0609051948l487c4a3bkc312d4247ab0ebdb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <99b581bb0609051948l487c4a3bkc312d4247ab0ebdb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070807010104040006080803" Subject: [PLUG] Zope Presentation X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070807010104040006080803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have uploaded my "Zope Introduction" presentation for tonights PLUG talk to: http://4aero.com/static/talks/PLUG_zope/ I hope to run through the slides quickly, so that we can so a live installation, setup, and programming of a Zope Instance. Thanks, Lee Marzke --------------070807010104040006080803 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="lee.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="lee.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Lee Marzke n:Marzke;Lee email;internet:lee@marzke.net tel;work:800 393 5217 tel;home:610 454 9354 version:2.1 end:vcard --------------070807010104040006080803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug --------------070807010104040006080803-- From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Wed Sep 06 20:45:37 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 18213 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2006 20:45:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Sep 2006 20:45:36 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 18160 invoked by uid 107); 6 Sep 2006 20:45:32 -0000 Received: from [69.17.28.131] (HELO banshee.acetechgroup.com) (69.17.28.131) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:45:32 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by banshee.acetechgroup.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270A2E38EA6 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:48:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from banshee.acetechgroup.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (banshee.acetechgroup.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26848-07 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:48:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from banshee.acetechgroup.com (banshee.acetechgroup.com [10.2.3.137]) by banshee.acetechgroup.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E2BE38E97 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:48:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <15311546.35261157575701715.JavaMail.root@banshee> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:48:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "W. Chris Shank" To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Sep 6 16:48:22 2006 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 44ff3416305641892514359 X-DSPAM-Factors: 27, X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.339 tagged_above=-10 required=4 autolearn=ham tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, AWL=0.160, BAYES_00=-2.599, DSPAM_HAM=-0.1] X-Spam-Score: -4.339 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [PLUG] Dual Head Capable Linux Laptop? X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Doesn anyone know of a laptop that has real dual head support (not just mirroring the display but actually 2 useful desktops)? And can this be supported with Linux? -- W. Chris Shank ACE Technology Group, LLC www.myremoteITdept.com (610) 640-4223 -------------------------------- Security Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Wed Sep 06 20:57:06 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 21167 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2006 20:57:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Sep 2006 20:57:04 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 21131 invoked by uid 107); 6 Sep 2006 20:57:02 -0000 Received: from [129.25.6.194] (HELO mail.cs.drexel.edu) (129.25.6.194) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:57:02 -0400 Received: by mail.cs.drexel.edu (Postfix, from userid 5017) id 80183201ED3D; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:56:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 192.154.91.225 ( [192.154.91.225]) as user pls29@mail.cs.drexel.edu by mail.cs.drexel.edu with HTTP; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:56:41 -0400 Message-ID: <1157576201.44ff3609685d0@mail.cs.drexel.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:56:41 -0400 From: "Paul L. Snyder" To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: Re: [PLUG] Dual Head Capable Linux Laptop? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 192.154.91.225 X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Quoting "W. Chris Shank" : > Doesn anyone know of a laptop that has real dual head support (not just > mirroring the display but actually 2 useful desktops)? And can this be > supported with Linux? This works fine with the Thinkpad T41p that I am using (ATI FireGL T2 video). The displays for the LCD and external CRT are completely independent. I assume by extension that this will work on laptop with any modern ATI video controller. Other laptops will likely work as well, but I can't vouch for 'em. pls ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Wed Sep 06 23:08:54 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 6060 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2006 23:08:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Sep 2006 23:08:53 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 6025 invoked by uid 107); 6 Sep 2006 23:08:50 -0000 Received: from [66.249.82.236] (HELO wx-out-0506.google.com) (66.249.82.236) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:08:50 -0400 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s14so10249wxc for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:08:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eJBDAJoLhhlmqf5prRPpg7ObEQinc9dnTr7LY9Ncb0gcoBWpp394o3ahXdMIJKycgybkm5U/298AsUwg6mjQEw/+D35BR+vq1epAwZENdakOgSiWOR5ShtoH9OpQfSJL/EDMiznsC0DkMu2oufO5yJgrf+x0ic5mWdzNADob0G0= Received: by 10.90.100.2 with SMTP id x2mr2499455agb; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.90.1 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:08:49 -0400 From: "Shameel Arafin" To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" In-Reply-To: <1157576201.44ff3609685d0@mail.cs.drexel.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1157576201.44ff3609685d0@mail.cs.drexel.edu> Subject: [PLUG] Re: Dual Head Capable Linux Laptop? X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Dual-head will work for most laptops with a video card that supports it. I use nVidia's GeForce2Go on a Dell Inspiron 8200. You have to set the "TwinView" option for nVidia, in your xorg.conf. It's a matter of finding out how to activate dual-head for your graphics card, and of actually activating it in your xorg.conf (or XFree86 configuration file). Shameel On 9/6/06, Paul L. Snyder wrote: > Quoting "W. Chris Shank" : > > > Doesn anyone know of a laptop that has real dual head support (not just > > mirroring the display but actually 2 useful desktops)? And can this be > > supported with Linux? > > This works fine with the Thinkpad T41p that I am using (ATI FireGL T2 > video). The displays for the LCD and external CRT are completely > independent. > > I assume by extension that this will work on laptop with any modern ATI > video controller. Other laptops will likely work as well, but I can't > vouch for 'em. > > pls > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri Sep 08 14:12:34 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 9156 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2006 14:12:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Sep 2006 14:12:33 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 9123 invoked by uid 107); 8 Sep 2006 14:12:30 -0000 Received: from [216.193.251.57] (HELO gs11.inmotionhosting.com) (216.193.251.57) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 10:12:30 -0400 Received: from cpanel by gs11.inmotionhosting.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1GLh5E-00071g-4o; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 07:11:52 -0700 Received: from 72.244.68.109 ([72.244.68.109]) by georgesbasement.com (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 07:11:52 -0700 Message-ID: <20060908071152.fi7kxiav6ziv4wkk@georgesbasement.com> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 07:11:52 -0700 From: George Langford To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gs11.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.phillylinux.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32001 32001] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - georgesbasement.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: George Langford Subject: [PLUG] Re: What's going on with OpenOffice ? X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org A while ago I lamented: > My second problem remains unsolved. "Default" headers & > footers just don't fit the bill. Are the former choices, > "default, different first page, even & odd," hiding somewhere, > too ? Another version of the same lament appeared today. I opened an old report and saved it with a new name in preparation for a new report to the same client. When I opened the "header" field on the first page, it gave me the choice I wished for on the 1st page (different 1st page) but when I attempted to insert a header on the 2nd page, I was presented with only two choices - default and first page. When I chose default, it went back to page 1. It looks as though the only way to handle this is to start from scratch and create a series of templates, one for the first page, and two more for odd and even pages. Worse yet, when I attempted to put in the page numbers and page count fields, I get either gray blanks or word fields, but never any arabic numerals. If I turn off field shading, I get blank blanks. That's certainly unacceptable - I'll have to manually paginate this report - which fortunately is only a few pages. George Langford ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri Sep 08 14:28:25 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 11578 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2006 14:28:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Sep 2006 14:28:24 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 11540 invoked by uid 107); 8 Sep 2006 14:28:21 -0000 Received: from [64.233.182.186] (HELO nf-out-0910.google.com) (64.233.182.186) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 10:28:21 -0400 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id o25so673493nfa for ; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 07:28:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Qlottsz7Q3lKhCRZp1kKqDEXn6FlADZLXF4VjyeAP+F0NwJLQF00htoIUBjCsrkmmWMZhLP1LNUkU4JqVpfY0/AMF0Idw5A54nPdzAcmhgjKCtwybkMjUUH29ZnFT//GDUwavBnyuzn0+m+OSROuTBS6bAgKZ4azocpzzY1ZTJk= Received: by 10.49.41.12 with SMTP id t12mr4209710nfj; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 07:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.243.15 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 07:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6bb38bb80609080728hec1149s4f9f477f1c84fbdc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:28:16 -0400 From: "Michael Lazin" To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PLUG] scp weirdness X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1785879083==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org --===============1785879083== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_224764_27918740.1157725696112" ------=_Part_224764_27918740.1157725696112 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I have a fedora core 5 box at work and one at home. I would like to use scp to send files between them. I can scp files remotely to my box at work, but when I try to do the same to my box at home, I get the following message "declare -x CVS_RSH="ssh" " I can ssh to my box at home no problem. I am only having problems with scp. Any clues to what is wrong with my set up at home? Thanks, Michael ------=_Part_224764_27918740.1157725696112 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I have a fedora core 5 box at work and one at home.  I would like to use scp to send files between them.  I can scp files remotely to my box at work, but when I try to do the same to my box at home, I get the following message "declare -x CVS_RSH="ssh"  "

I can ssh to my box at home no problem.  I am only having problems with scp.  Any clues to what is wrong with my set up at home?

Thanks,

Michael

------=_Part_224764_27918740.1157725696112-- --===============1785879083== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug --===============1785879083==-- From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri Sep 08 14:34:47 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 12947 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2006 14:34:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Sep 2006 14:34:45 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 12905 invoked by uid 107); 8 Sep 2006 14:34:40 -0000 Received: from [66.93.22.232] (HELO cobija.connexer.com) (66.93.22.232) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 10:34:40 -0400 Received: from 81-170-234-204.bahnhofbredband.net (unknown [81.170.234.204]) by cobija.connexer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8F017C4B2 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:34:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [PLUG] scp weirdness From: sean finney To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List In-Reply-To: <6bb38bb80609080728hec1149s4f9f477f1c84fbdc@mail.gmail.com> References: <6bb38bb80609080728hec1149s4f9f477f1c84fbdc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 16:33:51 +0200 Message-Id: <1157726031.23840.2.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0053166868==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org --===============0053166868== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-DJil5X1hHRMtFYFv42ht" --=-DJil5X1hHRMtFYFv42ht Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 10:28 -0400, Michael Lazin wrote: > I have a fedora core 5 box at work and one at home. I would like to > use scp to send files between them. I can scp files remotely to my > box at work, but when I try to do the same to my box at home, I get > the following message "declare -x CVS_RSH=3D"ssh" "=20 my guess is something is sending output to stdout/stderr on logins, which can confuse scp. moving stuff from your .bashrc (or equivalent) to your .bash_profile (or equivalent), or commenting them out entirely. sean --=-DJil5X1hHRMtFYFv42ht Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQBFAX9PynjLPm522B0RAq2zAJiCorUs0cA36Jl1j7slpgYxg+w6AJwICNt1 24lhoI+y4ERe5pwKk1cPSQ== =e1r6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-DJil5X1hHRMtFYFv42ht-- --===============0053166868== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug --===============0053166868==-- From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri Sep 08 14:43:34 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 14614 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2006 14:43:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Sep 2006 14:43:33 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 14574 invoked by uid 107); 8 Sep 2006 14:43:30 -0000 Received: from [64.233.184.231] (HELO wr-out-0506.google.com) (64.233.184.231) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 10:43:30 -0400 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so199080wri for ; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 07:43:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cd/p3nU8XxqjzQJISOp5dNaQvmV8qsspmxGU1O0hWp/NkpNgn9ffCYpSVEdA6mbEWfeJNN1tGMt2PxNOCHyLnMbdW0UnM49Aru+yK3c0/eObik4d3kqUpsMn0eT0wsM9TID3B5Dylqznk0NXH+2PA8gYK8UfauUlqgrGyseHpcw= Received: by 10.90.120.6 with SMTP id s6mr763617agc; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 07:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.68.4 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 07:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <741eae780609080743i1d19008bj913c38d021e9746f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:43:25 -0400 From: TuskenTower To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" Subject: Re: [PLUG] scp weirdness In-Reply-To: <1157726031.23840.2.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6bb38bb80609080728hec1149s4f9f477f1c84fbdc@mail.gmail.com> <1157726031.23840.2.camel@localhost> X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org On 9/8/06, sean finney wrote: > On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 10:28 -0400, Michael Lazin wrote: > > I have a fedora core 5 box at work and one at home. I would like to > > use scp to send files between them. I can scp files remotely to my > > box at work, but when I try to do the same to my box at home, I get > > the following message "declare -x CVS_RSH="ssh" " > > my guess is something is sending output to stdout/stderr on logins, > which can confuse scp. moving stuff from your .bashrc (or equivalent) > to your .bash_profile (or equivalent), or commenting them out entirely. > > > sean Don't forget to turn on verbose SSH with scp -vvv. Each v denotes the level of debugging information. HTH Amul ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri Sep 08 17:47:32 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 10546 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2006 17:47:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Sep 2006 17:47:32 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 10505 invoked by uid 107); 8 Sep 2006 17:47:28 -0000 Received: from [69.17.28.131] (HELO banshee.acetechgroup.com) (69.17.28.131) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 13:47:28 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by banshee.acetechgroup.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20D6E38FBF for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:50:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from banshee.acetechgroup.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (banshee.acetechgroup.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12617-03 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:50:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from banshee.acetechgroup.com (banshee.acetechgroup.com [10.2.3.137]) by banshee.acetechgroup.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C29FE38FA8 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:50:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <12529929.46211157737817489.JavaMail.root@banshee> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:50:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "W. Chris Shank" To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Sep 8 13:50:18 2006 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4501ad5a155947068311703 X-DSPAM-Factors: 27, X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.076 tagged_above=-10 required=4 autolearn=ham tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, AWL=0.048, BAYES_00=-2.599, DSPAM_HAM=-0.1, HTML_30_40=0.374, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Spam-Score: -4.076 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [PLUG] iface detection differences between 2.4 & 2.6 kernels? X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0147515008==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org --===============0147515008== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1750_11315728.1157737817488" ------=_Part_1750_11315728.1157737817488 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just had a weird problem. I have a system with 2 ethernet cards (one intel e1000 on-board) and one realtek PCI running debian. If I boot the 2.4 kernel eth0 is the on-board intel e1000 and the realtek is eth1. If I boot the 2.6 kernel eth0 is the realtek and eth1 is the intel. Why would this happen? Is there a way to insure that a specific adapter comes up with a specified designation? this could be a real problem for a system with multiple cards with different networks. -- W. Chris Shank ACE Technology Group, LLC www.myremoteITdept.com (610) 640-4223 -------------------------------- Security Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. ------=_Part_1750_11315728.1157737817488 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just had a weird problem. I have a system= with 2 ethernet cards (one intel e1000 on-board) and one realtek PCI runni= ng debian. If I boot the 2.4 kernel eth0 is the on-board intel e1000 and th= e realtek is eth1. If I boot the 2.6 kernel eth0 is the realtek and eth1 is= the intel.

Why would this happen? Is there a way to insure that a = specific adapter comes up with a specified designation? this could be a rea= l problem for a system with  multiple cards with different networks.
--
W. Chris Shank
ACE Technology Group,&nb= sp;LLC
www.myremoteITdept.com
(610) 640-4223

------------= --------------------
Security Note: To protect again= st computer viruses, 
e-mail programs may = prevent sending or receiving 
certain types&nbs= p;of file attachments. Check your e-mail 
= security settings to determine how attachments&nbs= p;are 
handled. 
------=_Part_1750_11315728.1157737817488-- --===============0147515008== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug --===============0147515008==-- From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri Sep 08 17:57:26 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 13070 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2006 17:57:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Sep 2006 17:57:23 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 13032 invoked by uid 107); 8 Sep 2006 17:57:20 -0000 Received: from [64.233.184.235] (HELO wr-out-0506.google.com) (64.233.184.235) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 13:57:20 -0400 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so255075wri for ; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 10:57:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=dU0hWbpnx0WoGYpe0L7JhFIg8KT70aBIE7rY0AXQWNM4GFvzWt6O71VvQpVPoTxDjWooax2i7J+omA8LVthkwk8PRvgwaj/kP9eXYgBce8usGGj/EuypC4/mxivHALGYPpTRtDG4Js3iKRxhokby0mbMh6S6lAYG+hVyJIRZdIo= Received: by 10.90.25.9 with SMTP id 9mr993213agy; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 10:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.88.18 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:57:15 -0400 From: "K.S. Bhaskar" To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" Subject: Re: [PLUG] iface detection differences between 2.4 & 2.6 kernels? In-Reply-To: <12529929.46211157737817489.JavaMail.root@banshee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <12529929.46211157737817489.JavaMail.root@banshee> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 134ec36abc5f1df2 X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org This is not just a 2.4 vs. 2.6 issue. One of my laptops (Kubuntu Dapper) does this on reboots. Sometimes the Ethernet comes up as eth2 and the Wifi as eth3, and sometimes it's the other way around. No idea what happened to eth0 and eth1. Most annoying, because they are set up differently, and sometimes the WiFi picks up a neighbor's unsecured access point (which broadcasts the station id) rather than my own... -- Bhaskar On 9/8/06, W. Chris Shank wrote: > > I just had a weird problem. I have a system with 2 ethernet cards (one intel > e1000 on-board) and one realtek PCI running debian. If I boot the 2.4 kernel > eth0 is the on-board intel e1000 and the realtek is eth1. If I boot the 2.6 > kernel eth0 is the realtek and eth1 is the intel. > > Why would this happen? Is there a way to insure that a specific adapter > comes up with a specified designation? this could be a real problem for a > system with multiple cards with different networks. > > -- > W. Chris Shank > ACE Technology Group, LLC > www.myremoteITdept.com > (610) 640-4223 > > -------------------------------- > Security Note: To protect against computer viruses, > e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving > certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail > security settings to determine how attachments are > handled. > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements - > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion -- > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri Sep 08 18:27:34 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 16657 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2006 18:27:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Sep 2006 18:27:33 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 16616 invoked by uid 1000); 8 Sep 2006 18:27:30 -0000 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:27:30 -0400 From: "Michael C. Toren" To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: Re: [PLUG] iface detection differences between 2.4 & 2.6 kernels? Message-ID: <20060908182730.GA19917@netisland.net> References: <12529929.46211157737817489.JavaMail.root@banshee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <12529929.46211157737817489.JavaMail.root@banshee> X-Moon: The Moon is Waning Gibbous (98% of Full) X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 01:50:17PM -0400, W. Chris Shank wrote: > I just had a weird problem. I have a system with 2 ethernet cards (one > intel e1000 on-board) and one realtek PCI running debian. If I boot the > 2.4 kernel eth0 is the on-board intel e1000 and the realtek is eth1. If > I boot the 2.6 kernel eth0 is the realtek and eth1 is the intel. > > Why would this happen? Is there a way to insure that a specific adapter > comes up with a specified designation? this could be a real problem for > a system with multiple cards with different networks. You can try to solve this problem using the eth= kernel boot parameter, but I haven't had much luck with this in the past. An alternative is to configure your /etc/network/interfaces file to detect which interface is which based on the MAC address of the cards in question. For Debian stable, see /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz, around line 100: # Two ethernet interfaces, one connected to a trusted LAN, the # other to the untrusted Internet, identified by MAC address # rather than interface name: auto eth0 eth1 mapping eth0 eth1 script /path/to/get-mac-address.sh map 11:22:33:44:55:66 lan map AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF internet iface lan inet static address 192.168.42.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 pre-up /usr/local/sbin/enable-masq $IFACE iface internet inet dhcp pre-up /usr/local/sbin/firewall $IFACE The get-mac-address.sh script can be found at /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/get-mac-address.sh HTH, -mct ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sat Sep 09 05:26:18 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 22831 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2006 05:26:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Sep 2006 05:26:17 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 22768 invoked by uid 107); 9 Sep 2006 05:26:13 -0000 Received: from [207.245.72.138] (HELO exdomain.org) (207.245.72.138) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 01:26:13 -0400 Received: from exdomain.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by exdomain.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k895Ls80027106 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 01:21:59 -0400 Received: from localhost (jazzman@localhost) by exdomain.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id k895LsR1027102 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 01:21:54 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 01:21:54 -0400 (EDT) From: jazzman@exdomain.org To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" In-Reply-To: <20060908182730.GA19917@netisland.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [PLUG] OT: Odd CF Card Behavior... X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Hey all, quick question and I think Linux may end up being a key to the answer here. I have a cheapo $99 Aiptek palm digital video recorder... takes 640x480 video and some nice 3.1 megapixel stills and fits in your pocket with room to spare... It takes a CF card and I have a Lexar 512 in there. The problem is that since I started using the lexar (i believe the chip may be questionable, or maybe the formatting of it since i had to repartition it once or twice cause i Used it to play with netbsd on an old HPC) the pics and vids I take with the camera show up on the chip and i can see them fine ON the camera, but when i try to view them on a PC it can't read them. Is there a way I can copy them off (maybe byte by byte... id unno) and hopefully get them to work. It's so bizzare, they're there and I can see them on the camera, but I can't get them OFF of the camera. I've tried USB, I've tried puttin the card in a card reader, I've tried 2 or 3 different PCs... nada... Thanks Marc ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sat Sep 09 15:12:39 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 17239 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2006 15:12:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Sep 2006 15:12:38 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 17197 invoked by uid 107); 9 Sep 2006 15:12:35 -0000 Received: from [65.61.162.182] (HELO rs4.luxsci.com) (65.61.162.182) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 11:12:35 -0400 Received: from rs4.luxsci.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rs4.luxsci.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k89FC8TX010569 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 10:12:08 -0500 Received: (from lshttpd@localhost) by rs4.luxsci.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k89FBx4k010548; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:11:59 GMT Message-Id: <200609091511.k89FBx4k010548@rs4.luxsci.com> From: "Jabberwocky" Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 15:11:59 +0000 To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Comment: 16011-1943-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [PLUG] mini-tx wireless X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jabberwocky@luxsci.net, Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org I need to build a couple of thin clients to use in a traveling roadshow; th= e server will run K12LTSP. Thinking about mini-itx, with Compact Flash (jus= t in case later want to run puppy or dsl locally), and wireless connectivit= y. Ideas, hardware (particularly wireless cards that work well with Linux) and= suggested suppliers would be appreciated. ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Sat Sep 09 17:10:34 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 912 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2006 17:10:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellesmere.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Sep 2006 17:10:34 -0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 875 invoked by uid 107); 9 Sep 2006 17:10:31 -0000 Received: from [64.233.182.188] (HELO nf-out-0910.google.com) (64.233.182.188) by mail.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 13:10:31 -0400 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id o25so869660nfa for ; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 10:10:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=neD5WlwQybs6I5Sq4aKM1sJlsQfo1QaSCwF5IsOQRsyVpsMajncGI34QcNB9kPGbZ2zod3SOcV8UiaW9FrdaLht5ERaFy25UcucIDmyjylXiDP5EzkoZU83LWO0ni9fG51K1vZOz5g+WfzvM/1UIIytM4YCeeu/H1EXsLLug9rA= Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr5733569nfj; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 10:10:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.243.15 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 10:10:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6bb38bb80609091010n1076661dje0eb876c6b1b6d5d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 13:10:29 -0400 From: "Michael Lazin" To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" Subject: Re: [PLUG] scp weirdness In-Reply-To: <741eae780609080743i1d19008bj913c38d021e9746f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6bb38bb80609080728hec1149s4f9f477f1c84fbdc@mail.gmail.com> <1157726031.23840.2.camel@localhost> <741eae780609080743i1d19008bj913c38d021e9746f@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0964592193==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounce