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> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:48:27 -0400
> From: "Brent Saner"
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Mythbuntu update oddness?
>
> ooooooh! let me know how clearing the apt-proxy goes, that sounds
> suspect to me. short of that, i'd say it's the repos' and some sort
> of strange indexing problem
No go. I cleared the apt-proxy, and tried again with the same results.
It turns out this package is coming from http://ppa.launchpad.net
which was present in sources.list from the start of the clean install I
did of the beta Gutsy. I have no idea what it is, and haven't proxied it...
----- Trimmed session -----
$ sudo aptitude install ubuntu-mythtv-frontend
The following packages will be upgraded:
ubuntu-mythtv-frontend
Get:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net gutsy/multiverse ubuntu-mythtv-frontend
0.20.2+fixes14703-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1 [180kB]
Fetched 180kB in 0s (239kB/s)
(Reading database ... 59833 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace ubuntu-mythtv-frontend
0.20.2+fixes14703-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1 (using
.../ubuntu-mythtv-frontend_0.20.2+fixes14703-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1_all.deb)
...
Unpacking replacement ubuntu-mythtv-frontend ...
Setting up ubuntu-mythtv-frontend
(0.20.2+fixes14703-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1) ...
$ sudo aptitude upgrade
The following packages will be upgraded:
ubuntu-mythtv-frontend
1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/180kB of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] n
Abort.
$ ll /var/cache/apt/archives/
total 184
-rw-r----- 1 root root 0 2007-10-31 18:20 lock
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-11-01 02:42 partial
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 179922 2007-10-22 10:00
ubuntu-mythtv-frontend_0.20.2+fixes14703-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1_all.deb
----- end Trimmed session -----
At this point, I'll poke around looking for bug reports when I get some
time, but will otherwise give up unless anyone has any other ideas.
Presumably at some point either the package or the index will Get Fixed...
Thanks,
JP
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whaddya know! as luck would have it, this is currently the top 10 article on
lifehacker:
http://lifehacker.com/software/lifehacker-top-10/top-10-free-video-rippers-encoders-and-converters-316478.php
On 10/31/07, Brian Vagnoni wrote:
>
> If you live near Bensalem there is a New York Camera on street road, and
> in south philly there is Calumet Photographicboth offer professional services and will be much more knowledgeable than
> the local drug or video store. Of course professional means $$$, but a phone
> call can't hurt.
>
> Good places to go and try out high end gear, and then go and buy it
> online.
>
> Brian Vagnoni
>
> Good Luck, & Best Wishes for you and yours
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Eric [mailto:eric@lucii.org]
> *To:* Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List [mailto:
> plug@lists.phillylinux.org]
> *Sent:* Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:53:54 -0400
> *Subject:* [PLUG] Video question
>
> This is only tangentially related to Linux but I need some advice/help.
>
> My daughter has to complete a 3 minute speech on my old VHS-C video tape
> recorder tomorrow, have it converted to one of these formats:
> [wmv|avi|mov|mpg|mpeg|mp4|3gp] and upload it to the contest site on
> Friday. A
> college scholarship or considerable portion thereof could be in the
> balance here.
>
> Neither of my computers has the capability to take a video input (skip
> long
> "Pinnacle sux" story here). The Camera Shop will convert it for $29.99 (3
> minutes or 2 hours - same price) but they have no freakin' idea what the
> file
> format is. They just say: "You put the DVD in your DVD player and it
> plays!"
>
> Does anyone have suggestions about going from VHS-C to a file in short
> order?
> Perhaps someone could help out - I'd be happy to pay the $29.99 and drive
> over
> if that helps :-)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
> --
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whaddya know! as luck would have it, this is currently the top 10 article on lifehacker:
http://lifehacker.com/software/lifehacker-top-10/top-10-free-video-rippers-encoders-and-converters-316478.php
On 10/31/07, Brian Vagnoni <bvagnoni@v-system.net> wrote:
If you live near Bensalem there is a New York Camera on street road, and in south philly there is
Calumet Photographic both offer professional services and will be much more knowledgeable than the local drug or video store. Of course professional means $$$, but a phone call can't hurt.
Good places to go and try out high end gear, and then go and buy it online.
Brian Vagnoni
Good Luck, & Best Wishes for you and yours
From: Eric [mailto:eric@lucii.org]
To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List [mailto:
plug@lists.phillylinux.org]
Sent: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:53:54 -0400
Subject: [PLUG] Video question
This is only tangentially related to Linux but I need some advice/help.
My daughter has to complete a 3 minute speech on my old VHS-C video tape
recorder tomorrow, have it converted to one of these formats:
[wmv|avi|mov|mpg|mpeg|mp4|3gp] and upload it to the contest site on Friday. A
college scholarship or considerable portion thereof could be in the balance here.
Neither of my computers has the capability to take a video input (skip long
"Pinnacle sux" story here). The Camera Shop will convert it for $29.99 (3
minutes or 2 hours - same price) but they have no freakin' idea what the file
format is. They just say: "You put the DVD in your DVD player and it plays!"
Does anyone have suggestions about going from VHS-C to a file in short order?
Perhaps someone could help out - I'd be happy to pay the $29.99 and drive over
if that helps :-)
Thanks!
Eric
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#
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# And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings...
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Maybe a better option would be to borrow a harddrive-based camcorder. That would already save the video in a file format. Easily transfer it over USB and you're done.
Mini-DV is good, but it's more of a pain. Having a Firewire port along with a cable is less common than USB, although mini-DV camcorders do have USB interfaces as well. A capture program is needed. Then the video still needs to be compressed and encoded. So, unless editing needs to be done,
mini-DV is just more work.
Isaac Bennetch wrote:Other than that you should ask around and see if you can borrow a friend's mini-DV camera, as that's already a digital format you get a nice friendly datastream on the FireWire port and can relatively easily make the data file using any of a huge number of
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Maybe a better option would be to borrow a harddrive-based camcorder. That would already save the video in a file format. Easily transfer it over USB and you're done.
Mini-DV is good, but it's more of a pain. Having a Firewire port along with a cable is less common than USB, although mini-DV camcorders do have USB interfaces as well. A capture program is needed. Then the video still needs to be compressed and encoded. So, unless editing needs
to be done, mini-DV is just more work.
Isaac Bennetch <bennetch@gmail.com> wrote:Other than that you should ask around and see if you can borrow a friend's mini-DV camera, as that's already a digital format you
get a nice friendly datastream on the FireWire port and can relatively easily make the data file using any of a huge number of programs.
Easy + Joy + Powerful = Yahoo! Bookmarks x Toolbar
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PPA is the "Personal Package Archives" where Mario is keeping the
Mythbuntu customized versions of MythTV and other packages. It might be
that he posted a package with a problem... you might want to check in
the Mythbuntu mailing lists, or drop him an email....
--Matt
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> > Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:48:27 -0400
> > From: "Brent Saner"
> > Subject: Re: [PLUG] Mythbuntu update oddness?
> >
> > ooooooh! let me know how clearing the apt-proxy goes, that sounds
> > suspect to me. short of that, i'd say it's the repos' and some sort
> > of strange indexing problem
>
> No go. I cleared the apt-proxy, and tried again with the same results.
> It turns out this package is coming from http://ppa.launchpad.net
> which was present in sources.list from the start of the clean install I
> did of the beta Gutsy. I have no idea what it is, and haven't proxied it...
>
> ----- Trimmed session -----
> $ sudo aptitude install ubuntu-mythtv-frontend
> The following packages will be upgraded:
> ubuntu-mythtv-frontend
> Get:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net gutsy/multiverse ubuntu-mythtv-frontend
> 0.20.2+fixes14703-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1 [180kB]
> Fetched 180kB in 0s (239kB/s)
> (Reading database ... 59833 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace ubuntu-mythtv-frontend
> 0.20.2+fixes14703-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1 (using
> .../ubuntu-mythtv-frontend_0.20.2+fixes14703-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1_all.deb)
> ...
> Unpacking replacement ubuntu-mythtv-frontend ...
> Setting up ubuntu-mythtv-frontend
> (0.20.2+fixes14703-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1) ...
>
> $ sudo aptitude upgrade
> The following packages will be upgraded:
> ubuntu-mythtv-frontend
> 1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 0B/180kB of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] n
> Abort.
>
> $ ll /var/cache/apt/archives/
> total 184
> -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 2007-10-31 18:20 lock
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-11-01 02:42 partial
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 179922 2007-10-22 10:00
> ubuntu-mythtv-frontend_0.20.2+fixes14703-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1_all.deb
> ----- end Trimmed session -----
>
> At this point, I'll poke around looking for bug reports when I get some
> time, but will otherwise give up unless anyone has any other ideas.
> Presumably at some point either the package or the index will Get Fixed...
>
> Thanks,
> JP
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I thought DVDs were just a collection of mpeg files with some other files for the menus and stuff. Maybe you could just copy the mpeg files from the dvd??
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If you live near Bensalem there is a New York Camera on street road, and in south philly there is Calumet Photographic both offer professional services and will be much more knowledgeable than the local drug or video store. Of course professional means $$$, but a phone call can't hurt.
Good places to go and try out high end gear, and then go and buy it online.
Brian Vagnoni
Good Luck, & Best Wishes for you and yours
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Subject: [PLUG] Video question
This is only tangentially related to Linux but I need some advice/help.
My daughter has to complete a 3 minute speech on my old VHS-C video tape
recorder tomorrow, have it converted to one of these formats:
[wmv|avi|mov|mpg|mpeg|mp4|3gp] and upload it to the contest site on Friday. A
college scholarship or considerable portion thereof could be in the balance here.
Neither of my computers has the capability to take a video input (skip long
"Pinnacle sux" story here). The Camera Shop will convert it for $29.99 (3
minutes or 2 hours - same price) but they have no freakin' idea what the file
format is. They just say: "You put the DVD in your DVD player and it plays!"
Does anyone have suggestions about going from VHS-C to a file in short order?
Perhaps someone could help out - I'd be happy to pay the $29.99 and drive over
if that helps :-)
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I thought DVDs were just a collection of mpeg files with some other files for the menus and stuff. Maybe you could just copy the mpeg files from the dvd??
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If you live near Bensalem there is a New York Camera on street road, and in south philly there is
Calumet Photographic both offer professional services and will be much more knowledgeable than the local drug or video store. Of course professional means $$$, but a phone call can't hurt.
Good places to go and try out high end gear, and then go and buy it online.
Brian Vagnoni
Good Luck, & Best Wishes for you and yours
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Subject: [PLUG] Video question
This is only tangentially related to Linux but I need some advice/help.
My daughter has to complete a 3 minute speech on my old VHS-C video tape
recorder tomorrow, have it converted to one of these formats:
[wmv|avi|mov|mpg|mpeg|mp4|3gp] and upload it to the contest site on Friday. A
college scholarship or considerable portion thereof could be in the balance here.
Neither of my computers has the capability to take a video input (skip long
"Pinnacle sux" story here). The Camera Shop will convert it for $29.99 (3
minutes or 2 hours - same price) but they have no freakin' idea what the file
format is. They just say: "You put the DVD in your DVD player and it plays!"
Does anyone have
suggestions about going from VHS-C to a file in short order?
Perhaps someone could help out - I'd be happy to pay the $29.99 and drive over
if that helps :-)
Thanks!
Eric
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I have a few machine carcasses that are taking up space in my basement. I
have a dual-PII DEC Machine, a compaq, an HP, and a couple of miscellaneous
motherboards (I think one's a K6-3)... I was going to put them out on the
curb next week, but if anyone feels like driving to Lansdale for a
trunk-load of free stuff, let me know. Most of this stuff is usable, but
some of it may not be. The DEC machine is chock full of SCSI equipment (U2W
I think). It just needs CPU(s) and memory to get going. It will take PIIs up
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I have a few machine carcasses that are taking up space in my basement.
I have a dual-PII DEC Machine, a compaq, an HP, and a couple of
miscellaneous motherboards (I think one's a K6-3)... I was going to put
them out on the curb next week, but if anyone feels like driving to
Lansdale for a trunk-load of free stuff, let me know. Most of this
stuff is usable, but some of it may not be. The DEC machine is chock
full of SCSI equipment (U2W I think). It just needs CPU(s) and memory
to get going. It will take PIIs up to 450MHz.
Let me know
Eric
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The files on the DVD are in VOB format and can be converted to other
formats with software packages available online. I have also read that
VOB files are in mpeg-2 format and they can simply be renamed from *.vob
to *.mpeg and will play that way, but I have never tried it. Maybe
someone on the list has tried this??
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I thought DVDs were just a collection of mpeg files with some other
files for the menus and stuff. Maybe you could just copy the mpeg files
from the dvd??
----- Original Message ----
From: Brian Vagnoni
To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 10:48:01 PM
Subject: Re: [PLUG] Video question
If you live near Bensalem there is a New York Camera on street road, and
in south philly there is Calumet Photographic both offer professional
services and will be much more knowledgeable than the local drug or
video store. Of course professional means $$$, but a phone call can't
hurt.
Good places to go and try out high end gear, and then go and buy it
online.
Brian Vagnoni
Good Luck, & Best Wishes for you and yours
From: Eric [mailto:eric@lucii.org]
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[mailto:plug@lists.phillylinux.org]
Sent: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:53:54 -0400
Subject: [PLUG] Video question
This is only tangentially related to Linux but I need some advice/help.
My daughter has to complete a 3 minute speech on my old VHS-C video tape
recorder tomorrow, have it converted to one of these formats:
[wmv|avi|mov|mpg|mpeg|mp4|3gp] and upload it to the contest site on
Friday. A
college scholarship or considerable portion thereof could be in the
balance here.
Neither of my computers has the capability to take a video input (skip
long
"Pinnacle sux" story here). The Camera Shop will convert it for $29.99
(3
minutes or 2 hours - same price) but they have no freakin' idea what the
file
format is. They just say: "You put the DVD in your DVD player and it
plays!"
Does anyone have suggestions about going from VHS-C to a file in short
order?
Perhaps someone could help out - I'd be happy to pay the $29.99 and
drive over
if that helps :-)
Thanks!
Eric
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#
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# And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings...
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----- Original Message ----
From: Brian Vagnoni <bvagnoni@v-system.net>
To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List
<plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 10:48:01 PM
Subject: Re: [PLUG] Video question
If you live near Bensalem there is a New York Camera on street road, and i=
n
south philly there is Calumet Photographic both offer professional services and will be m=
uch
more knowledgeable than the local drug or video store. Of course professi=
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means $$$, but a phone call can't hurt.
Good places to go and try out high end gear, and then go and buy it onlin=
e.
Brian Vagnoni
Good Luck, & Best Wishes for you and yours
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This is only tangentially related to Linux but I need some advice/help.
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br>
recorder tomorrow, have it converted to one of these formats:
[wmv|avi|mov|mpg|mpeg|mp4|3gp] and upload it to the contest site on Frida=
y. A
college scholarship or considerable portion thereof could be in the balan=
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here.
Neither of my computers has the capability to take a video input (skip lo=
ng
"Pinnacle sux" story here). The Camera Shop will convert it for=
$29.99 (3
minutes or 2 hours - same price) but they have no freakin' idea what the f=
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format is. They just say: "You put the DVD in your DVD player and it=
plays!"
Does anyone have suggestions about going from VHS-C to a file in short or=
der?
Perhaps someone could help out - I'd be happy to pay the $29.99 and drive=
over
if that helps :-)
Thanks!
Eric
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# Eric Lucas
#
# "Oh, I have slipped the surly bond of earth
# And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings...
# -- John Gillespie Magee Jr
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Do remember that DVDs for movies that are bought at are encrypted with CSS and that simply renaming the file may not
be enough. Also, I wanted to mention that the DVD camcorders suck..
They suck because you have to use their stupid proprietary software to
work with their proprietary video that is recorded to the discs.
Tried several different methods to extract MPEG 2/4 video and nothing
seemed to work. I think we eventually had to HandBrake the video off
the disc (as opposed to copying the files to the harddrive and using
that) to get some kind video that we could finally then import into
iMovie.
Steve Morgan
On 11/1/07, Mark Baker wrote:
>
>
>
>
> The files on the DVD are in VOB format and can be converted to other formats
> with software packages available online. I have also read that VOB files
> are in mpeg-2 format and they can simply be renamed from *.vob to *.mpeg and
> will play that way, but I have never tried it. Maybe someone on the list
> has tried this??
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> From: Josh Goldstein [mailto:oopjosh@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 9:44 AM
> To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Video question
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I thought DVDs were just a collection of mpeg files with some other files
> for the menus and stuff. Maybe you could just copy the mpeg files from the
> dvd??
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Brian Vagnoni
> To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List
>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 10:48:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Video question
>
> If you live near Bensalem there is a New York Camera on street road, and in
> south philly there is Calumet Photographic both offer professional services
> and will be much more knowledgeable than the local drug or video store. Of
> course professional means $$$, but a phone call can't hurt.
>
> Good places to go and try out high end gear, and then go and buy it online.
>
> Brian Vagnoni
>
> Good Luck, & Best Wishes for you and yours
>
> From: Eric [mailto:eric@lucii.org]
> To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List
> [mailto:plug@lists.phillylinux.org]
> Sent: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:53:54 -0400
> Subject: [PLUG] Video question
>
> This is only tangentially related to Linux but I need some advice/help.
>
> My daughter has to complete a 3 minute speech on my old VHS-C video tape
> recorder tomorrow, have it converted to one of these formats:
> [wmv|avi|mov|mpg|mpeg|mp4|3gp] and upload it to the contest site on Friday.
> A
> college scholarship or considerable portion thereof could be in the balance
> here.
>
> Neither of my computers has the capability to take a video input (skip long
> "Pinnacle sux" story here). The Camera Shop will convert it for $29.99 (3
> minutes or 2 hours - same price) but they have no freakin' idea what the
> file
> format is. They just say: "You put the DVD in your DVD player and it
> plays!"
>
> Does anyone have suggestions about going from VHS-C to a file in short
> order?
> Perhaps someone could help out - I'd be happy to pay the $29.99 and drive
> over
> if that helps :-)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
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On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 11:03:11AM -0400, Mark Baker said:
> The files on the DVD are in VOB format and can be converted to other
> formats with software packages available online. I have also read
> that VOB files are in mpeg-2 format and they can simply be renamed
> from *.vob to *.mpeg and will play that way, but I have never tried
> it. Maybe someone on the list has tried this??
VOBs are like mpeg-2, except that they are not always linear (you can
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The vob files on a dvd may contain other information than the mpg data
stream. This includes alternative audio tracks, subtitles (which are stored
as bitmaps), menus (mpgs plus a menu map file), and alternate angle video
streams.
Renaming the vobs typically works because most video playing software can
parse the data stream.
Eric, if you have that store convert your video for you, the dvd will most
likely be what Brent said, NTSC dvd. If they don't encode encryption onto
the dvd, you can easily copy the vobs to your hard drive, then pull out the
mpg stream you want via mplayer, mencoder, ffmpeg, and lots of other nifty
linux pieces of software. If they do encode the protection, well, I am not
going to get into that as its a hot topic among fair use advocates and such
(I doubt the store will encode the CSS encryption).
The easy, no frills way if you get a dvd without encription:
mplayer -dumpstream -dumpfile out.mpeg dvd://
That will play the first title on the dvd and dump the mpeg-2 stream to a
file out.mpeg.
Hope this helps! If you are really into home movies though, I would
recommend getting a capture card. I use the hauppauge 150 MCE, it encodes
to mpeg-2 on the card. Using the ivtv linux driver, I can plug in a vcr,
old camera, or tv line and just cat /dev/video0 > out.mpeg to dump the
stream. Works like a dream! But thats an investment you may not need.
-Louis
On 11/1/07, Mark Baker wrote:
>
> The files on the DVD are in VOB format and can be converted to other
> formats with software packages available online. I have also read that VOB
> files are in mpeg-2 format and they can simply be renamed from *.vob to
> *.mpeg and will play that way, but I have never tried it. Maybe someone on
> the list has tried this??
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> *From:* Josh Goldstein [mailto:oopjosh@yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2007 9:44 AM
> *To:* Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List
> *Subject:* Re: [PLUG] Video question
>
>
>
> I thought DVDs were just a collection of mpeg files with some other files
> for the menus and stuff. Maybe you could just copy the mpeg files from the
> dvd??
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Brian Vagnoni
> To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List <
> plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 10:48:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Video question
>
> If you live near Bensalem there is a New York Camera on street road, and
> in south philly there is Calumet Photographicboth offer professional services and will be much more knowledgeable than
> the local drug or video store. Of course professional means $$$, but a phone
> call can't hurt.
>
> Good places to go and try out high end gear, and then go and buy it
> online.
>
> Brian Vagnoni
>
> Good Luck, & Best Wishes for you and yours
>
> *From:* Eric [mailto:eric@lucii.org]
> *To:* Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List [mailto:
> plug@lists.phillylinux.org]
> *Sent:* Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:53:54 -0400
> *Subject:* [PLUG] Video question
>
> This is only tangentially related to Linux but I need some advice/help.
>
> My daughter has to complete a 3 minute speech on my old VHS-C video tape
> recorder tomorrow, have it converted to one of these formats:
> [wmv|avi|mov|mpg|mpeg|mp4|3gp] and upload it to the contest site on
> Friday. A
> college scholarship or considerable portion thereof could be in the
> balance here.
>
> Neither of my computers has the capability to take a video input (skip
> long
> "Pinnacle sux" story here). The Camera Shop will convert it for $29.99 (3
> minutes or 2 hours - same price) but they have no freakin' idea what the
> file
> format is. They just say: "You put the DVD in your DVD player and it
> plays!"
>
> Does anyone have suggestions about going from VHS-C to a file in short
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> Perhaps someone could help out - I'd be happy to pay the $29.99 and drive
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The vob files on a dvd may contain other information than the mpg data stream. This includes alternative audio tracks, subtitles (which are stored as bitmaps), menus (mpgs plus a menu map file), and alternate angle video streams.
Renaming the vobs typically works because most video playing software can parse the data stream.
Eric, if you have that store convert your video for you, the dvd will most likely be what Brent said, NTSC dvd. If they don't encode encryption onto the dvd, you can easily copy the vobs to your hard drive, then pull out the mpg stream you want via mplayer, mencoder, ffmpeg, and lots of other nifty linux pieces of software. If they do encode the protection, well, I am not going to get into that as its a hot topic among fair use advocates and such (I doubt the store will encode the CSS encryption).
The easy, no frills way if you get a dvd without encription:
mplayer -dumpstream -dumpfile out.mpeg dvd://
That will play the first title on the dvd and dump the mpeg-2 stream to a file out.mpeg.
Hope this helps! If you are really into home movies though, I would recommend getting a capture card. I use the hauppauge 150 MCE, it encodes to mpeg-2 on the card. Using the ivtv linux driver, I can plug in a vcr, old camera, or tv line and just cat /dev/video0 >
out.mpeg to dump the stream. Works like a dream! But thats an investment you may not need.
-Louis
On 11/1/07, Mark Baker <
mark.baker@hxti.com> wrote:
The files on
the DVD are in VOB format and can be converted to other formats with software
packages available online. I have also read that VOB files are in mpeg-2
format and they can simply be renamed from *.vob to *.mpeg and will play that
way, but I have never tried it. Maybe someone on the list has tried
this??
Mark
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I thought DVDs were just a collection of mpeg files
with some other files for the menus and stuff. Maybe you could just copy
the mpeg files from the dvd??
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If you live near Bensalem there is a New York Camera on street road, and in
south philly there is
Calumet Photographic both offer professional services and will be much
more knowledgeable than the local drug or video store. Of course professional
means $$$, but a phone call can't hurt.
Good places to go and try out high end gear, and then go and buy it online.
Brian Vagnoni
Good Luck, & Best Wishes for you and yours
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This is only tangentially related to Linux but I need some advice/help.
My daughter has to complete a 3 minute speech on my old VHS-C video tape
recorder tomorrow, have it converted to one of these formats:
[wmv|avi|mov|mpg|mpeg|mp4|3gp] and upload it to the contest site on Friday. A
college scholarship or considerable portion thereof could be in the balance
here.
Neither of my computers has the capability to take a video input (skip long
"Pinnacle sux" story here). The Camera Shop will convert it for
$29.99 (3
minutes or 2 hours - same price) but they have no freakin' idea what the file
format is. They just say: "You put the DVD in your DVD player and it
plays!"
Does anyone have suggestions about going from VHS-C to a file in short order?
Perhaps someone could help out - I'd be happy to pay the $29.99 and drive over
if that helps :-)
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How about one of those things that covert a video signal into a USB stream?
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still fighting Verizon on this. here's some new information I've
learned, however. (if anyone here is a member on AVSforum, please
cross-post to there.)
Verizon is injecting something like a _broadcast flag_ (although the
representative I spoke to seemed to confused this with encrypted QAM
at times) which the Actiontec routers look for. this could explain
the very large PMT header information.
supposedly when the 2009 analog OTA shut-off occurs, Verizon wants to
force everyone who subscribes to FiOS TV to use their cablebox even
(encrypting) for OTA channels (which are currently offered as Clear
QAM). isn't there some kind of law/regulation regarding this
behavior? don't the OTA channels have to be unencrypted (un-DRM'd)?
can someone cite this regulation/law for me?
because of the OTA regulations about how much Verizon can charge for
that feed, Verizon is seeking the loophole of charging rents on the
(mandatory) cablebox instead.
when you call in for tech support for FiOS TV service, the support
centers are in Texas, Indiana, and Florida. they use a _Slingbox_
(seriously) to route the local video office feeds in question to their
tech support office. this is why they ask you for a "channel number"
when you inquire about a broadcaster. the conversion from signal ->
cablebox -> slingbox is also why, I suspect, I'm having such
difficulty getting Verizon to audit the MPEG-2 Transport Stream itself
for faults.
the two "main broadcast rings" for television are in Florida and
Indiana. apparently everyone else derives from that.
Florida gets 50Mbps download speeds. New York, New Jersey, and
Connecticut (and I think Boston) get 20Mbps symmetric. the filters
controlling speeds and authenticating access to the PON are _in the
firmware of the ONT_. does anyone have EEPROM dumping skills?
comparing various firmwares from the ONT could provide insight into
how the system works. (sorta like uncapping cable modems back in the
day.) the hardware itself can do up to 900Mbps symmetric. the CO
uses OC-192 upstream.
the satellite dishes used to receive the originating provider video
signal are referred to as the "super head-in". the analog to fibre
conversion occurs at the "big box".
the 15/15 symmetric that was supposed to be offered starting the
beginning of October (according to a Verizon representative) congruent
to this [ http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071023-verizon-discovers-symmetry-offers-2020-symmetrical-fios-service.html
] will probably materialize within 8 weeks. (the claim is that
between talk-of and actual existence heuristically occurs within
Verizon of about 8 weeks time.)
the ONT handles access authentication and the WAN is now fully DHCP.
PPPoE is provided as a legacy function, but the name and password are
no longer actually authenticated.
anyone have the info on what's so special about Florida to Verizon? a
combination of legal benefits and where the pipe/infrastructure are?
On 10/12/07, zuzu wrote:
> I asked about this before in passing, but after throwing myself
> against the wall of Verizon bureaucracy for over 3 weeks, I'm also
> trying to forensically assess the technical nature of this problem:
>
> is anyone else using a Clear QAM tuner (such as the HDHomeRun) with
> the FiOS TV service? are any of you missing sound from the channels
> for WGN Superstation and the Weather Channel (not Weatherscan)? ...as
> of about 3 weeks ago?
>
> (all other unencrypted channels have sound and picture just fine.
> picture is fine on WGN and Weather Channel, just no sound, only as of
> 3 weeks ago.)
>
> I'm using an HDHR with EyeTV, although I've also tested this directly
> off the ONT with a Miglia MiniHD tuner, and ever since Verizon mucked
> with their network/infrastructure 3 weeks ago, those two channels have
> been without sound.
>
> on the phone I keep getting re-routed to either the "video" / "inside
> your house" department or lied to that I have the Premier package when
> actually I have the Local Plus (i.e. digital / HDTV) package ($13/mo),
> and that the problem is either with my tuner (it's not, since two
> different tuners produce the same result, and both tuners did work
> before) or that because I opted not to take the free cablebox when the
> TV service was installed that "I only ordered analog signal" (not
> true, Local Plus is _only_ in digital).
>
> I'm now starting to play with dvbsnoop or find some other (preferably
> Free Software) utility to examine the MPEG-2 transport stream (a
> friend of mine examined what FiOS sends out and said their header
> packets for PMT are unusually large -- so large that they spread over
> several packets).
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG_transport_stream
>
> one question Verizon shyed away from was that perhaps their boxes
> don't have problems because they're actually outputting the analog
> signal; I think this was a topic on Slashdot a little while ago:
> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/16/0238245
>
> so among all you smart people who I'm betting have FiOS TV and MythTV
> setup using an HDHR:
>
> 1.) do you have any problems tuning 256 QAM with an HDHR or similar
> tuner and getting sound for WGN Superstation (411MHz) and the Weather
> Channel (477MHz)?
>
> 2.) do you know of any tools, such as dvbsnoop, to examine the
> transport stream packets to find out, precisely, what Verizon is doing
> wrong so I can decisively bring it to their attention?
>
> 3.) anyone have any additional information about how Verizon's FiOS
> network is deployed that you could bring to bear into this issue? is
> there jargon for the particular hardware used or office responsible
> that I can cite? or any other advice on how to squelch the run-around
> Verizon is giving me?
>
> p.s. the best way to get through Verizon's automated phone tree is to
> say "speak to an agent" or "speak to an NT" (network technician).
>
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The things that crop up in this list are just sooooo handy!
> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 11:32:50 -0400
> From: "Louis Kratz"
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Video question
> I use the hauppauge 150 MCE, it encodes
> to mpeg-2 on the card. Using the ivtv linux driver, I can plug in a vcr,
> old camera, or tv line and just cat /dev/video0 > out.mpeg to dump the
> stream. Works like a dream! But thats an investment you may not need.
Really?! That's interesting. One of my TODOs is to capture some kid
VCR tapes (and possibly DVD, not sure yet [2]) into my new MythTV setup.
I have a PVR-500 with both tuners and one composite input all
configured in Myth. (Humm, I thought... [1].)
I also have a VCR/DVD combo player I was going to plug into the PVR-500
composite in. But then I get stuck. How do I go about recording that?
I had vague notions of trying to set up a manual recording for a given
time slot, cuing up the tape then sitting there with a watch to hit
play. But I figured there had to be a better way.
'cat /dev/video0 > out.mpeg' might do the trick, though it begs other
questions like how to "inject" the new file into Myth. Wife Acceptance
Factor implies that in with the rest of the episodes recorded would be
best, but I'm not sure how to do that.
Thoughts?
JP
[1] $ ll /dev/video*
crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 2007-10-31 15:35 /dev/video0
crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 1 2007-10-31 15:35 /dev/video1
crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 24 2007-10-31 15:35 /dev/video24
crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 25 2007-10-31 15:35 /dev/video25
crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 32 2007-10-31 15:35 /dev/video32
crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 33 2007-10-31 15:35 /dev/video33
[2] I'm sure that ripping any DVDs would be much better than capturing
them. The problem is that I don't think I have any DVD players in any
of my Myth* machines. I think my work Laptop can play DVDs, but I never
tried and it's running XP2 (for work, remember). I suppose DVD drives
are cheap enough, but I have form-factor issues too (like Dell PE 650 1u
server), though I guess putting one in the Optiplex GX-260 Myth-frontend
would probably work.
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Microsoft has single-handedly nullified Moore's Law.
Innate design flaws of Windows make a personal firewall, anti-virus
and anti-malware software mandatory. The resulting software arms race
has effectively flattened Moore's Law on hardware running Windows.
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Elizabeth Bevilacqua wrote:
> It's time to pass the hat again for donations to renew our domain names.
I don't get out much (lest I turn into a pumpkin) but can I paypal you?
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I needed an extra box at work, which presented the chance to try
something different. PCLinuxOS has become a favorite, running in a VM
at home, so I figured why not.
The machine is a newish Dell, dual core, 1G, dual drive. To say it
didn't like the XP it came with is a gross understatement. To say it
didn't like my 2nd install of XP is another understatement. I won't
even tell you about the 3rd install.
No sooner was the decision made than a cd burned and off I went.
>From boot to reboot in just under ten minutes.
I don't seem to remember and of my XP installs being completed anywhere
in the vicinity of ten minutes. Let's just call it many multiples of
ten minutes. Even Ubuntu, if I can remember that far back, took longer.
The new OS found every little detail of the pc, DVD-ROM, CDRW, DHCP
server, and even asked me if I wanted to join a domain. I've never had
linux ask me if I wanted to join a domain before. I wanted to ask it if
it was anything like joining a health club, in which case the answer was
a resounding NO. Besides - the last guy in my dept who tried to join
the domain ended up doing REALLY WEIRD THINGS to his box.
Leaping right in, with what some would call a