From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Thu May 01 13:50:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 1547 invoked from network); 1 May 2008 06:50:09 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 May 2008 06:50:09 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 1447 invoked by uid 104); 1 May 2008 06:50:04 -0700 Received: from mx0.hxti.com (HELO mx0.hxti.com) (216.203.4.133) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 May 2008 06:50:04 -0700 Received: from mx0.hxti.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mx0.hxti.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m41Dnx6O002788 for ; Thu, 1 May 2008 09:49:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 09:49:58 -0400 From: "Mark Baker" To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4818DA89.1020203@lucii.org> x-scalix-Hops: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.1.9 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.9 (2007-02-13) on mx0.hxti.com Subject: Re: [PLUG] server problem X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org I would recommend using the HP Lights out interface (if the server has one) to check the error logs that the hardware is creating. The HP tools such as the hpasmcli and hpacucli commands should point you in the right direction. Have you booted into knoppix or another live-cd distro to see if the problem persists? Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric [mailto:eric@lucii.org] > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:46 PM > To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List > Subject: [PLUG] server problem > > I'm curious if someone on this list has some insight into this problem... > > One of my clients has a Compaq ProLiant 6400R server (ancient - quad 550 MHZ > Xeon P3 processors) that suddenly started having hardware crashes. It runs for > about 10 minutes then suddenly a black screen. Immediate reboot does not help > but If I let it sit for 10 minutes I can reboot it - for about 5 minutes. > > It's OS agnostic... Windows, Knoppix, it does not care. > > I'm convinced that something is heating up and causing the failure but I have no > idea what. All the fans work. > > Curiously, when the server crashes it appears that it starts to reboot (CD ROM > drive light starts blinking). Also, the bus appears to be reset about every 5 > or 10 seconds. It's as though the system starts to boot and then something > resets the bus and it starts all over. > > I've removed and re-installed the power supplies, removed the fax card (ISA), > removed every processor and associated power supply card looking for signs of > trouble... nothing. > > Anybody have any thoughts about how to troubleshoot this further? > Alternatively, does anyone know any experts that might be available to fix this? > I suppose I could call HP but this is so far out of warranty that I'm > guessing they'd just laugh at me. > > Eric > -- > # Eric Lucas > # > # "Oh, I have slipped the surly bond of earth > # And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings... > # -- John Gillespie Magee Jr > _____________________________________________________________________ > ______ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Thu May 01 14:07:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 3104 invoked from network); 1 May 2008 07:07:38 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 May 2008 07:07:38 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 3083 invoked by uid 104); 1 May 2008 07:07:36 -0700 Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (HELO QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.30.48) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 May 2008 07:07:36 -0700 Received: from OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id LAfe1Z00617UAYkA50J600; Thu, 01 May 2008 14:04:36 +0000 Received: from polaris.lucii.dnsalias.org ([69.142.161.90]) by OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id LE7C1Z00C1xKXRx8Z00000; Thu, 01 May 2008 14:07:14 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ntzMyTyRv4aWjhuFgwEA:9 a=Yq-d5VpOLKPdg5IEjsG5YU4Kr8AA:4 a=vNGxQsTWjH8A:10 Received: (qmail 28876 invoked by uid 453); 1 May 2008 14:07:12 -0000 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on lucii.dnsalias.org Received: from ursa.lucii.dnsalias.org (HELO [192.168.1.2]) (192.168.1.2) by lucii.dnsalias.org (qpsmtpd/0.40) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 May 2008 10:07:12 -0400 Message-ID: <4819CE8F.9060401@lucii.org> Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 10:07:11 -0400 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 3.0a1pre (X11/2008012008) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [PLUG] server problem X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Mark Baker wrote: > I would recommend using the HP Lights out interface (if the server has > one) to check the error logs that the hardware is creating. The HP > tools such as the hpasmcli and hpacucli commands should point you in the > right direction. Have you booted into knoppix or another live-cd distro > to see if the problem persists? > > Mark Thanks to all who replied! Yes, I tried Knoppix and it's the same story - that's what convinces me that I'm dealing with a hardware failure. I'm going to try various arrangements ( one power supply, one cpu, no SCSI card, etc.) to see if I can isolate it. That's because I only have about 3 to 5 minutes before it blanks on me so the software tools may not do the job fast enough. In fact, I'm not sure I can even get them installed! Eric -- # Eric Lucas # # "Oh, I have slipped the surly bond of earth # And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings... # -- John Gillespie Magee Jr ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Thu May 01 15:03:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 9218 invoked from network); 1 May 2008 08:03:10 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 May 2008 08:03:10 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 9179 invoked by uid 104); 1 May 2008 08:03:08 -0700 Received: from macserver.v-system.net (HELO macserver.v-system.net) (75.147.85.146) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 May 2008 08:03:08 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00: -1.665, FORGED_RCVD_HELO: 0.135, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO: 1.5, CUSTOM_RULE_SUBJECT: ALLOW,TOTAL_SCORE: -0.030 X-Spam-Level: Received: from 70.208.196.81 ([70.208.196.81]) by macserver.v-system.net for plug@lists.phillylinux.org; Thu, 1 May 2008 11:03:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 content-class: From: "Brian Vagnoni" Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 11:03:14 -0400 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: [PLUG] server problem X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org I bet it's the power supply. Try unloading it, take drives off and only have the mobo powered and see if it stays on longer. You may just have to hook another power supply up to it just to see. There are also cheap power supply testers you can get at micro center if i'm not mistaken. Could also be the case switch, try shorting the atx switch wires together and see if that helps. Another thing to look at is if there is a ups connected to it with power management software running and there is either no commun [The entire original message is not included] ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Thu May 01 15:08:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 10074 invoked from network); 1 May 2008 08:08:50 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 May 2008 08:08:50 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 10060 invoked by uid 104); 1 May 2008 08:08:47 -0700 Received: from macserver.v-system.net (HELO macserver.v-system.net) (75.147.85.146) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 May 2008 08:08:47 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00: -1.665, FORGED_RCVD_HELO: 0.135, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO: 1.5, CUSTOM_RULE_SUBJECT: ALLOW,TOTAL_SCORE: -0.030 X-Spam-Level: Received: from 70.208.196.81 ([70.208.196.81]) by macserver.v-system.net for plug@lists.phillylinux.org; Thu, 1 May 2008 11:08:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 content-class: From: "Brian Vagnoni" Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 11:08:51 -0400 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 To: Subject: Re: [PLUG] server problem fixed X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org I bet it's the power supply. Try unloading it, take drives off and only have the mobo powered and see if it stays on longer. You may just have to hook another power supply up to it just to see. There are also cheap power supply testers you can get at micro center if i'm not mistaken. Could also be the case switch, try shorting the atx switch wires together and see if that helps. Another thing to look at is if there is a ups connected to it with power management software running and there is either no communication to the ups hence shutdown, or you may have a defective ups. My first guess is the power supply is bad, classic symptomology that you described. Brian Vagnoni PGP Digital Fingerprint F076 6EEE 06E5 BEEF EBBD BD36 F29E 850D FC32 3955 -----Original Message----- From: Eric Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:46 PM To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: [PLUG] server problem I'm curious if someone on this list has some insight into this problem... One of my clients has a Compaq ProLiant 6400R server (ancient - quad 550 MHZ Xeon P3 processors) that suddenly started having hardware crashes. It runs for about 10 minutes then suddenly a black screen. Immediate reboot does not help but If I let it sit for 10 minutes I can reboot it - for about 5 minutes. It's OS agnostic... Windows, Knoppix, it does not care. I'm convinced that something is heating up and causing the failure but I have no idea what. All the fans work. Curiously, when the server crashes it appears that it starts to reboot (CD ROM drive light starts blinking). Also, the bus appears to be reset about every 5 or 10 seconds. It's as though the system starts to boot and then something resets the bus and it starts all over. I've removed and re-installed the power supplies, removed the fax card (ISA), removed every processor and associated power supply card looking for signs of trouble... nothing. Anybody have any thoughts about how to troubleshoot this further? Alternatively, does anyone know any experts that might be available to fix this? I suppose I could call HP but this is so far out of warranty that I'm guessing they'd just laugh at me. Eric -- # Eric Lucas # # "Oh, I have slipped the surly bond of earth # And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings... # -- John Gillespie Magee Jr ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Thu May 01 15:45:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 14856 invoked from network); 1 May 2008 08:45:13 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 May 2008 08:45:13 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 14822 invoked by uid 104); 1 May 2008 08:45:11 -0700 Received: from mx0.hxti.com (HELO mx0.hxti.com) (216.203.4.133) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 May 2008 08:45:11 -0700 Received: from mx0.hxti.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mx0.hxti.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m41Fj69G008815 for ; Thu, 1 May 2008 11:45:06 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 11:45:06 -0400 From: "Mark Baker" To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4468.13351209654536.mx0.hxti.com@MHS> x-scalix-Hops: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.1.9 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.9 (2007-02-13) on mx0.hxti.com Subject: Re: [PLUG] server problem fixed X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org I would also recommend the power supply tester. I have one made by Antec which you are more than welcome to borrow. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Vagnoni [mailto:bvagnoni@v-system.net] > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:09 AM > To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > Subject: Re: [PLUG] server problem fixed > > > I bet it's the power supply. Try unloading it, take drives off and only have the mobo powered > and see if it stays on longer. You may just have to hook another power supply up to it just to > see. There are also cheap power supply testers you can get at micro center if i'm not > mistaken. Could also be the case switch, try shorting the atx switch wires together and see > if that helps. Another thing to look at is if there is a ups connected to it with power > management software running and there is either no communication to the ups hence > shutdown, or you may have a defective ups. > > My first guess is the power supply is bad, classic symptomology that you described. > > Brian Vagnoni > PGP Digital Fingerprint > > F076 6EEE 06E5 BEEF EBBD BD36 F29E 850D FC32 3955 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:46 PM > To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List > Subject: [PLUG] server problem > > I'm curious if someone on this list has some insight into this problem... > > One of my clients has a Compaq ProLiant 6400R server (ancient - quad 550 MHZ > Xeon P3 processors) that suddenly started having hardware crashes. It runs for > about 10 minutes then suddenly a black screen. Immediate reboot does not help > but If I let it sit for 10 minutes I can reboot it - for about 5 minutes. > > It's OS agnostic... Windows, Knoppix, it does not care. > > I'm convinced that something is heating up and causing the failure but I have no > idea what. All the fans work. > > Curiously, when the server crashes it appears that it starts to reboot (CD ROM > drive light starts blinking). Also, the bus appears to be reset about every 5 > or 10 seconds. It's as though the system starts to boot and then something > resets the bus and it starts all over. > > I've removed and re-installed the power supplies, removed the fax card (ISA), > removed every processor and associated power supply card looking for signs of > trouble... nothing. > > Anybody have any thoughts about how to troubleshoot this further? > Alternatively, does anyone know any experts that might be available to fix this? > I suppose I could call HP but this is so far out of warranty that I'm > guessing they'd just laugh at me. > > Eric > -- > # Eric Lucas > # > # "Oh, I have slipped the surly bond of earth > # And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings... > # -- John Gillespie Magee Jr > _____________________________________________________________________ > ______ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > _____________________________________________________________________ > ______ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Thu May 01 15:52:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 16110 invoked from network); 1 May 2008 08:52:10 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 May 2008 08:52:09 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 16073 invoked by uid 104); 1 May 2008 08:52:05 -0700 Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (HELO QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.62.32) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 May 2008 08:52:05 -0700 Received: from OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id LEgE1Z00g0cZkys5303u00; Thu, 01 May 2008 15:50:06 +0000 Received: from polaris.lucii.dnsalias.org ([69.142.161.90]) by OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id LFs01Z00D1xKXRx3W00000; Thu, 01 May 2008 15:52:01 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Cs4794yNHBKiG2559jEA:9 a=mqBmbNzAKk59EB_5oBOpqnUFJOYA:4 a=vNGxQsTWjH8A:10 Received: (qmail 29282 invoked by uid 453); 1 May 2008 15:52:00 -0000 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on lucii.dnsalias.org Received: from ursa.lucii.dnsalias.org (HELO [192.168.1.2]) (192.168.1.2) by lucii.dnsalias.org (qpsmtpd/0.40) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 May 2008 11:52:00 -0400 Message-ID: <4819E720.70800@lucii.org> Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 11:52:00 -0400 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 3.0a1pre (X11/2008012008) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [PLUG] server problem fixed X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Mark Baker wrote: > I would also recommend the power supply tester. I have one made by > Antec which you are more than welcome to borrow. > > Mark Mark: I appreciate the offer. These power supplies appear to have proprietary Compaq (is that redundant?) connectors - I would expect the power supply tester would not connect. Thanks anyway! Eric -- # Eric Lucas # # "Oh, I have slipped the surly bond of earth # And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings... # -- John Gillespie Magee Jr ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Thu May 01 17:13:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 24767 invoked from network); 1 May 2008 10:13:27 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 May 2008 10:13:27 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 24734 invoked by uid 104); 1 May 2008 10:13:21 -0700 Received: from mail44.messagelabs.com (HELO mail44.messagelabs.com) (216.82.249.179) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 May 2008 10:13:21 -0700 X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: rkaye2@csc.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-44.messagelabs.com!1209661996!1380016!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.12.14.2; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [20.137.2.88] Received: (qmail 13871 invoked from network); 1 May 2008 17:13:17 -0000 Received: from amer-mta102.csc.com (HELO amer-mta102.csc.com) (20.137.2.88) by server-15.tower-44.messagelabs.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 1 May 2008 17:13:17 -0000 Received: from amer-gw09.amer.csc.com (amer-gw09.amer.csc.com [20.6.39.245]) by amer-mta102.csc.com (Switch-3.3.0/Switch-3.3.0) with ESMTP id m41HI1fi030931 for ; Thu, 1 May 2008 13:18:01 -0400 To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: Ron Kaye Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:13:05 -0400 X-MIMETrack: S/MIME Sign by Notes Client on Ron Kaye/GIS/SC/CSC(Release 6.5.4|March 27, 2005) at 05/01/2008 01:13:06 PM, Serialize by Notes Client on Ron Kaye/GIS/SC/CSC(Release 6.5.4|March 27, 2005) at 05/01/2008 01:13:06 PM, Serialize complete at 05/01/2008 01:13:06 PM, S/MIME Sign failed at 05/01/2008 01:13:06 PM: The cryptographic key was not found, Serialize by Router on AMER-GW09/SRV/CSC(Release 7.0.2FP1 HF180|March 29, 2007) at 05/01/2008 01:16:16 PM, Serialize complete at 05/01/2008 01:16:16 PM Cc: David Douglass Subject: [PLUG] linux on hp X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0820676471==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============0820676471== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 005E95348525743C_=" This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 005E95348525743C_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" has anyone installed hp system management homepage on linux boxes? if so, cant find the software. work effectively? run in gui and/or cli? hope this isnt too basic. how do i get red hat version # (rhel 5 for example), and the patch level from the command line? not uname for kernel version. thanks in advance, ron Computer Sciences Corporation Registered Office: 3170 Fairview Park Drive, Falls Church, Virginia 22042, USA Registered in Nevada, USA No: C-489-59 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a PRIVATE message. 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has anyone installed hp system management homepage on linux boxes?
if so, cant find the software.
work effectively?
run in gui and/or cli?

hope this isnt too basic.
how do i get red hat version # (rhel 5 for example), and the patch level from the command line?
not uname for kernel version.

thanks in advance,

ron


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 --=_alternative 005E95348525743C_=-- --===============0820676471== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug --===============0820676471==-- From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Thu May 01 17:18:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 25837 invoked from network); 1 May 2008 10:18:12 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 May 2008 10:18:12 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 25818 invoked by uid 104); 1 May 2008 10:18:08 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (HELO an-out-0708.google.com) (209.85.132.250) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 May 2008 10:18:08 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c34so291771anc.31 for ; Thu, 01 May 2008 10:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.12.1 with SMTP id 1mr3345174anl.22.1209662284808; Thu, 01 May 2008 10:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from ?10.2.2.101? ( [74.94.60.218]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm2063373hsd.10.2008.05.01.10.18.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 01 May 2008 10:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4819FB4C.7080006@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 13:18:04 -0400 From: brent saner User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060918) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=832D950A Subject: Re: [PLUG] linux on hp X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Ron Kaye wrote: | | hope this isnt too basic. | how do i get red hat version # (rhel 5 for example), and the patch | level from the command line? | not uname for kernel version. # cat /etc/issue or # cat /proc/version might be want you want (most likely, /etc/issue) - -- brent saner. gpg info at http://www.notebookarmy.org/gpg.txt (this is a shorter sig.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIGftM8u2Zh4MtlQoRA2U4AJ0RLO1uqSJDO3VqLC6s+opj50J5AQCcDpuC 35hHcc1Y6oYcy82efAmGA2Q= =fanA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Thu May 01 18:35:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 2628 invoked from network); 1 May 2008 11:35:07 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 May 2008 11:35:07 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 2523 invoked by uid 104); 1 May 2008 11:35:01 -0700 Received: from smtp-relay.dca.net (HELO smtp-relay.dca.net) (216.158.48.66) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 May 2008 11:35:01 -0700 Received: from cobalt.claudeschrader.com (cobalt.claudeschrader.com [207.245.84.98]) by smtp-relay.dca.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B1431421E for ; Thu, 1 May 2008 14:39:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cobalt.claudeschrader.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 11BB2183437; Thu, 1 May 2008 14:34:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 14:34:56 -0400 From: "Claude M. Schrader" To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Message-ID: <20080501183456.GT5325@claudeschrader.com> Mail-Followup-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List References: <4819FB4C.7080006@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4819FB4C.7080006@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Subject: Re: [PLUG] linux on hp X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org On 13:18 Thu 01 May , brent saner wrote: > # cat /etc/issue > > or > > # cat /proc/version > > might be want you want (most likely, /etc/issue) # cat /etc/redhat-release will also give this information ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Thu May 01 18:42:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 5200 invoked from network); 1 May 2008 11:42:50 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 May 2008 11:42:50 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 5004 invoked by uid 104); 1 May 2008 11:42:39 -0700 Received: from slackware.com (HELO bob.slackware.com) (64.57.102.34) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 May 2008 11:42:39 -0700 Received: from bob.slackware.com (IDENT:3341@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bob.slackware.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m41IgXib001259 for ; Thu, 1 May 2008 11:42:33 -0700 Received: from localhost (msimons@localhost) by bob.slackware.com (8.13.7/8.12.9/Submit) with ESMTP id m41IgXhs001256 for ; Thu, 1 May 2008 11:42:33 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: bob.slackware.com: msimons owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 11:42:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "M.Simons" To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PLUG] Public Forum on the Future of Philadelphia Wireless Internet Initiative X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org From: "Todd Wolfson, MMP" FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: 4/30/08 Press contacts: Todd Wolfson (MMP): 215.990.3702 Gwen Shaffer: 267.475.1441 The Future of Philadelphia's Wireless Internet Initiative: A Public Forum When: Tuesday, June 3, 6:30 p.m. Where: Tuttleman Learning Center, Room 105, Corner of 13th St. and Montgomery Ave. Temple University Get connected! 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All Hail Discordia! X-Motto: debian/rules User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Authenticated-Sender: C=UK, ST=North Yorkshire, L=York, O=yorkcabal.org.uk, CN=lobefin.net, EMAIL=hostmaster@yorkcabal.org.uk X-Scanned-By: ClamAV 0.92.1 on vancouver.yorkcabal.org.uk; Thu, 01 May 2008 23:02:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [PLUG] linux on hp X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0315308249==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org --===============0315308249== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq" Content-Disposition: inline --JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 01:13:05PM -0400, Ron Kaye said: > hope this isnt too basic. > how do i get red hat version # (rhel 5 for example), and the patch level= =20 > from the command line? > not uname for kernel version. lsb_release -a --=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Stephen Gran | The good die young -- because they see | | steve@lobefin.net | it's no use living if you've got to be | | http://www.lobefin.net/~steve | good. -- John Barrymore | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIGj4NSYIMHOpZA44RAtTwAKCEryIO+PfyTw3k8IVGf5rGp99iLgCdHrPg kQDvR8ZtytUH290HEepdD4I= =GiHM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq-- --===============0315308249== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug --===============0315308249==-- From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri May 02 03:24:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 19237 invoked from network); 1 May 2008 20:24:34 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 May 2008 20:24:34 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 19221 invoked by uid 104); 1 May 2008 20:24:30 -0700 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (HELO wx-out-0506.google.com) (66.249.82.232) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 May 2008 20:24:30 -0700 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i28so1371674wxd.1 for ; Thu, 01 May 2008 20:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.190.6 with SMTP id n6mr2556560waf.51.1209698669198; Thu, 01 May 2008 20:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.181.16 with HTTP; Thu, 1 May 2008 20:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <351785350805012024l1ae50010u980782494d082d55@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 23:24:29 -0400 From: "Brian Stempin" To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" In-Reply-To: <4819dbb9.0a1f400a.7086.ffffb535SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4819dbb9.0a1f400a.7086.ffffb535SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Subject: Re: [PLUG] server problem X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1884622959==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org --===============1884622959== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15136_15302249.1209698669183" ------=_Part_15136_15302249.1209698669183 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline lol...mid-message segfault? On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Brian Vagnoni wrote: > > > > I bet it's the power supply. Try unloading it, take drives off and only > have the mobo powered and see if it stays on longer. You may just have to > hook another power supply up to it just to see. There are also cheap power > supply testers you can get at micro center if i'm not mistaken. Could also > be the case switch, try shorting the atx switch wires together and see if > that helps. Another thing to look at is if there is a ups connected to it > with power management software running and there is either no commun > > [The entire original message is not included] > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- > http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements - > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion -- > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ------=_Part_15136_15302249.1209698669183 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline lol...mid-message segfault?

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Brian Vagnoni <bvagnoni@v-system.net> wrote:



I bet it's the power supply. Try unloading it, take drives off and only have the mobo powered and see if it stays on longer. You may just have to hook another power supply up to it just to see. There are also cheap power supply testers you can get at micro center if i'm not mistaken. Could also be the case switch, try shorting the atx switch wires together and see if that helps. Another thing to look at is if there is a ups connected to it with power management software running and there is either no commun

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------=_Part_15136_15302249.1209698669183-- --===============1884622959== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug --===============1884622959==-- From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri May 02 08:03:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 13493 invoked from network); 2 May 2008 01:03:04 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 May 2008 01:03:03 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 13464 invoked by uid 104); 2 May 2008 01:02:59 -0700 Received: from smtp.jpsdomain.org (HELO smtp.jpsdomain.org) (66.92.238.114) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 May 2008 01:02:59 -0700 Received: from [192.168.99.121] (unknown [192.168.99.121]) by smtp.jpsdomain.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDA27C8003 for ; Fri, 2 May 2008 04:02:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <481ACAAD.80007@jpsdomain.org> Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 04:02:53 -0400 From: JP Vossen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org Subject: [PLUG] USB cable longer than 15 feet? X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this, but... Anyone ever see if USB cable longer than 15 feet, or is that the max allowed by the spec? I may need to replace a 25' parallel printer cable with USB, and 15' < 25'. I guess I can use a powered (or unpowered) hub to join 2 15' cables. Anyone got anything better? Later, JP ----------------------------|:::======|------------------------------- JP Vossen, CISSP |:::======| jp{at}jpsdomain{dot}org My Account, My Opinions |=========| http://www.jpsdomain.org/ ----------------------------|=========|------------------------------- "Microsoft Tax" = the additional hardware & yearly fees for the add-on software required to protect Windows from its own poorly designed and implemented self, while the overhead incidentally flattens Moore's Law. ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri May 02 10:01:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 24639 invoked from network); 2 May 2008 03:01:21 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 May 2008 03:01:21 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 24588 invoked by uid 104); 2 May 2008 03:01:16 -0700 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (HELO py-out-1112.google.com) (64.233.166.182) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 May 2008 03:01:16 -0700 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id w53so2097839pyg.25 for ; Fri, 02 May 2008 03:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.116.16 with SMTP id t16mr1278407rvm.60.1209722474738; Fri, 02 May 2008 03:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.190.10 with HTTP; Fri, 2 May 2008 03:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37b99eab0805020301s1efda56ueca0afbdf898825a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 05:01:14 -0500 From: "jim fisher" To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PLUG] PC equipment disposal (OT) X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1557049476==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org --===============1557049476== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5901_17713500.1209722474733" ------=_Part_5901_17713500.1209722474733 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Courtesy of KYW 1060 news radio: http://mygreenelectronics.org/ jim fisher ]edijf irc freenode #ubuntu-us-pa "Do, or do not. 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------=_Part_5901_17713500.1209722474733-- --===============1557049476== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug --===============1557049476==-- From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri May 02 10:17:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 26008 invoked from network); 2 May 2008 03:17:11 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 May 2008 03:17:11 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 25987 invoked by uid 104); 2 May 2008 03:17:08 -0700 Received: from p01c12o141.mxlogic.net (HELO p01c12o141.mxlogic.net) (208.65.145.64) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 May 2008 03:17:08 -0700 Received: from unknown [216.166.12.31] by p01c12o141.mxlogic.net (mxl_mta-5.4.0-3) with SMTP id 42aea184.3312077744.4934.01-005.p01c12o141.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Fri, 02 May 2008 04:17:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from AUSP01VMBX02.collaborationhost.net ([10.2.8.8]) by AUSP01MHUB01.collaborationhost.net ([10.2.8.25]) with mapi; Fri, 2 May 2008 05:16:58 -0500 From: Jonathan Simpson To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 05:16:39 -0500 Thread-Topic: [PLUG] USB cable longer than 15 feet? Thread-Index: AcisKw0HWGxAES+1T3q9NguaXaJd3gAElOZw Message-ID: <07AAB76376D0E2498C27CDEBB451DAA657EA7E257E@AUSP01VMBX02.collaborationhost.net> References: <481ACAAD.80007@jpsdomain.org> In-Reply-To: <481ACAAD.80007@jpsdomain.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam: [F=0.1000000000; S=0.100(2008042501)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [(unknown)] Subject: Re: [PLUG] USB cable longer than 15 feet? X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Yes, perhaps one of these? http://www.thepertelianstore.com/servlet/Detail?no=4 You can probably get a better price on it, but they're the ones that clued me in to the existence. It's basically an active 1port USB hub embedded in the cable. For a printer, you *might* get by just by stringing some cables together, but for reliable operation you should use a powered hub (or a powered cable like the above) as a repeater. Jonathan Simpson -----Original Message----- From: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org [mailto:plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org] On Behalf Of JP Vossen Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 4:03 AM To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org Subject: [PLUG] USB cable longer than 15 feet? I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this, but... Anyone ever see if USB cable longer than 15 feet, or is that the max allowed by the spec? I may need to replace a 25' parallel printer cable with USB, and 15' < 25'. I guess I can use a powered (or unpowered) hub to join 2 15' cables. Anyone got anything better? Later, JP ----------------------------|:::======|------------------------------- JP Vossen, CISSP |:::======| jp{at}jpsdomain{dot}org My Account, My Opinions |=========| http://www.jpsdomain.org/ ----------------------------|=========|------------------------------- "Microsoft Tax" = the additional hardware & yearly fees for the add-on software required to protect Windows from its own poorly designed and implemented self, while the overhead incidentally flattens Moore's Law. ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri May 02 11:02:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 30497 invoked from network); 2 May 2008 04:02:14 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 May 2008 04:02:14 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 30478 invoked by uid 104); 2 May 2008 04:02:11 -0700 Received: from hydra.blumenthals.com (HELO hydra.blumenthals.com) (24.75.25.80) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 May 2008 04:02:11 -0700 Received: from cpe-74-78-251-158.buffalo.res.rr.com ([74.78.251.158] helo=[192.168.2.3]) by hydra.blumenthals.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Jrt1Z-0002SD-32 for plug@lists.phillylinux.org; Fri, 02 May 2008 07:01:57 -0400 From: Erek Dyskant To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List In-Reply-To: <481ACAAD.80007@jpsdomain.org> References: <481ACAAD.80007@jpsdomain.org> Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 07:01:54 -0400 Message-Id: <1209726114.6362.2.camel@tolkein> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hydra.blumenthals.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.phillylinux.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - blumenthals.com Subject: Re: [PLUG] USB cable longer than 15 feet? X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org There are timing and power issues that keep USB from working reliably at > 15'. As you suggested, the solution is to put a hub in the middle. powered is preferable, but unpowered should work, especially if you're not using a high power drawing device on the other end. --Erek On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 04:02 -0400, JP Vossen wrote: > I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this, but... > > Anyone ever see if USB cable longer than 15 feet, or is that the max > allowed by the spec? I may need to replace a 25' parallel printer cable > with USB, and 15' < 25'. I guess I can use a powered (or unpowered) hub > to join 2 15' cables. Anyone got anything better? > > Later, > JP > ----------------------------|:::======|------------------------------- > JP Vossen, CISSP |:::======| jp{at}jpsdomain{dot}org > My Account, My Opinions |=========| http://www.jpsdomain.org/ > ----------------------------|=========|------------------------------- > "Microsoft Tax" = the additional hardware & yearly fees for the add-on > software required to protect Windows from its own poorly designed and > implemented self, while the overhead incidentally flattens Moore's Law. > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri May 02 11:45:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 2870 invoked from network); 2 May 2008 04:45:14 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 May 2008 04:45:14 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 2856 invoked by uid 104); 2 May 2008 04:45:10 -0700 Received: from macserver.v-system.net (HELO macserver.v-system.net) (75.147.85.146) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 May 2008 04:45:10 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL: 0.293,BAYES_00: -1.665,HTML_30_40: 0.374, HTML_MESSAGE: 0.001,SUBJECT_EXCESS_QP: 0,CUSTOM_RULE_SUBJECT: ALLOW, TOTAL_SCORE: -0.997 X-Spam-Level: Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by macserver.v-system.net for plug@lists.phillylinux.org; Fri, 2 May 2008 07:45:03 -0400 To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" From: "Brian Vagnoni" In-Reply-To: 1209726114.6362.2.camel@tolkein Message-ID: <20080502114503.fea135b0@macserver.v-system.net> Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 07:45:03 -0400 X-User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9b5) Gecko/2008032619 Firefox/3.0b5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PLUG] =?iso-8859-1?q?USB_cable_longer_than_15_feet=3F?= X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0699424961==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0699424961== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------0b64598d7b707c7590304d2243e28c0a" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -------------0b64598d7b707c7590304d2243e28c0a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You would be better off with a small printer server. -------------------------------------------------- Brian Vagnoni PGP Digital Fingerprint F076 6EEE 06E5 BEEF EBBD BD36 F29E 850D FC32 3955 -------------------------------------------------- =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F =20 From: Erek Dyskant [mailto:erek@blumenthals.com] To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List [mailto:plug@lists.p= hillylinux.org] Sent: Fri, 02 May 2008 07:01:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [PLUG] USB cable longer than 15 feet=3F There are timing and power issues that keep USB from working reliably at > 15'. As you suggested, the solution is to put a hub in the middle. powered is preferable, but unpowered should work, especially if you're not using a high power drawing device on the other end. =20 --Erek =20 On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 04:02 -0400, JP Vossen wrote: > I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this, but... >=20 > Anyone ever see if USB cable longer than 15 feet, or is that the max= =20 > allowed by the spec=3F I may need to replace a 25' parallel printer= cable=20 > with USB, and 15' < 25'. I guess I can use a powered (or unpowered)= hub=20 > to join 2 15' cables. Anyone got anything better=3F >=20 > Later, > JP > ----------------------------|:::=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D|-----------------= -------------- > JP Vossen, CISSP |:::=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D| jp{at}jps= domain{dot}org > My Account, My Opinions |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D| http:= //www.jpsdomain.org/ > ----------------------------|=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D|-----------= -------------------- > "Microsoft Tax" =3D the additional hardware & yearly fees for the ad= d-on > software required to protect Windows from its own poorly designed an= d > implemented self, while the overhead incidentally flattens Moore's L= aw. > =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillyli= nux.org > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-a= nnounce > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listin= fo/plug =20 =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinu= x.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-ann= ounce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo= /plug =20 -------------0b64598d7b707c7590304d2243e28c0a Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You would be better off with a small printer server.

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From: Erek Dyskant [mailto:erek@blumen= thals.com]
To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List= [mailto:plug@lists.phillylinux.org]
Sent: Fri, 02 May 2008 07= :01:54 -0400
Subject: Re: [PLUG] USB cable longer than 15 feet= =3F

There are timing and power issues that keep USB from working = reliably at
> 15'. As you suggested, the solution is to put a hub in the middle.=
powered is preferable, but unpowered should work, especially if you're not using a high power drawing device on the other end.

--Erek

On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 04:02 -0400, JP Vossen wrote:
> I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this, but...
>
> Anyone ever see if USB cable longer than 15 feet, or is that the ma= x
> allowed by the spec=3F I may need to replace a 25' parallel printe= r cable
> with USB, and 15' < 25'. I guess I can use a powered (or unpowe= red) hub
> to join 2 15' cables. Anyone got anything better=3F
>
> Later,
> JP
> ----------------------------|:::=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D|----------------= ---------------
> JP Vossen, CISSP |:::=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D| jp{at}jp= sdomain{dot}org
> My Account, My Opinions |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D| http://www.jpsdoma= in.org/
> ----------------------------|=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D|----------= ---------------------
> "Microsoft Tax" =3D the additional hardware & yearly fees for t= he add-on
> software required to protect Windows from its own poorly designed a= nd
> implemented self, while the overhead incidentally flattens Moore's = Law.
> =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F
> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org<= br> > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/ma= ilman/listinfo/plug-announce
> General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/ma= ilman/listinfo/plug

=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F
Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org
Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman= /listinfo/plug-announce
General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman= /listinfo/plug
-------------0b64598d7b707c7590304d2243e28c0a-- --===============0699424961== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug --===============0699424961==-- From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri May 02 13:53:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 16082 invoked from network); 2 May 2008 06:53:10 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 May 2008 06:53:10 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 16039 invoked by uid 104); 2 May 2008 06:53:07 -0700 Received: from mx.freeshell.ORG (HELO sdf.lonestar.org) (192.94.73.19) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 May 2008 06:53:07 -0700 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:dperez@faeroes.freeshell.org [192.94.73.9]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m42DqhDN013709 for ; Fri, 2 May 2008 13:52:43 GMT Received: (from dperez@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.2/8.12.8/Submit) id m42Dqh2a029156 for plug@lists.phillylinux.org; Fri, 2 May 2008 09:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 09:52:43 -0400 From: Dan Perez To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org Message-ID: <20080502135243.GA437@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.19]); Fri, 02 May 2008 13:52:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [PLUG] ssh key based authentication X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Hi all, I'm having an issue with ssh key based authentication on a solaris box. I'm trying to set it up so I can login in to numerous userids on this box without a password. I've created my rsa keys and put my public keys in the users' authorized_keys files. I can ssh without a password to some of the users but not all of them and I can't find the difference with the two sets of users. The users that I can't ssh in to without a password are designated ftp accounts, but I don't see anything that actually makes them ftp accounts. They still have valid shells and shell access. I don't think the accounts are locked. The homedirs are in a different location, /oradata, but the users have full access to their homedirs and .ssh directories. I would really appreciate some pointers as to where to look. Thanks, dan ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri May 02 13:58:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 17306 invoked from network); 2 May 2008 06:58:32 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 May 2008 06:58:32 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 17292 invoked by uid 104); 2 May 2008 06:58:30 -0700 Received: from mx0.hxti.com (HELO mx0.hxti.com) (216.203.4.133) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 May 2008 06:58:30 -0700 Received: from mx0.hxti.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mx0.hxti.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m42DwGXW008190 for ; Fri, 2 May 2008 09:58:16 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 09:58:16 -0400 From: "Mark Baker" To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20080502135243.GA437@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> x-scalix-Hops: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.1.9 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.9 (2007-02-13) on mx0.hxti.com Subject: Re: [PLUG] ssh key based authentication X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Hi Dan, Usually when I see these types of problems it stems from the file permissions on the .ssh directory and key files. I usually start debugging by logging in as one of the users that is having trouble using the keys and trying to Ssh to a server with the -v flag, which will almost always show you the problem right off the bat. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Perez [mailto:dperez@sdf.lonestar.org] > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 9:53 AM > To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > Subject: [PLUG] ssh key based authentication > > Hi all, > > I'm having an issue with ssh key based authentication on a solaris > box. I'm trying to set it up so I can login in to numerous userids on > this box without a password. I've created my rsa keys and put my > public keys in the users' authorized_keys files. I can ssh without a > password to some of the users but not all of them and I can't find the > difference with the two sets of users. > > The users that I can't ssh in to without a password are designated ftp > accounts, but I don't see anything that actually makes them ftp > accounts. They still have valid shells and shell access. I don't > think the accounts are locked. The homedirs are in a different > location, /oradata, but the users have full access to their homedirs > and .ssh directories. > > I would really appreciate some pointers as to where to look. > Thanks, dan > _____________________________________________________________________ > ______ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri May 02 14:00:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 17918 invoked from network); 2 May 2008 07:00:46 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 May 2008 07:00:46 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 17890 invoked by uid 104); 2 May 2008 07:00:41 -0700 Received: from hydra.blumenthals.com (HELO hydra.blumenthals.com) (24.75.25.80) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 May 2008 07:00:41 -0700 Received: from cpe-74-78-251-158.buffalo.res.rr.com ([74.78.251.158] helo=[192.168.2.3]) by hydra.blumenthals.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JrvoS-0003ae-Te for plug@lists.phillylinux.org; Fri, 02 May 2008 10:00:37 -0400 From: Erek Dyskant To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List In-Reply-To: <20080502135243.GA437@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> References: <20080502135243.GA437@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 10:00:37 -0400 Message-Id: <1209736837.6362.20.camel@tolkein> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hydra.blumenthals.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.phillylinux.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - blumenthals.com Subject: Re: [PLUG] ssh key based authentication X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 09:52 -0400, Dan Perez wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm having an issue with ssh key based authentication on a solaris > box. I'm trying to set it up so I can login in to numerous userids on > this box without a password. I've created my rsa keys and put my > public keys in the users' authorized_keys files. I can ssh without a > password to some of the users but not all of them and I can't find the > difference with the two sets of users. Dan, Check the appropriate log files (messages and secure) and see if it says anything about the login attempts. Often this problem is because of overly lax permissions on the .ssh directory or the authorized_keys file Regards, Erek Dyskant ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri May 02 14:19:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 19713 invoked from network); 2 May 2008 07:19:27 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 May 2008 07:19:27 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 19696 invoked by uid 104); 2 May 2008 07:19:25 -0700 Received: from mx.freeshell.ORG (HELO sdf.lonestar.org) (192.94.73.19) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 May 2008 07:19:25 -0700 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:dperez@faeroes.freeshell.org [192.94.73.9]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m42EJENH011666 for ; Fri, 2 May 2008 14:19:14 GMT Received: (from dperez@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.2/8.12.8/Submit) id m42EJEC1010188 for plug@lists.phillylinux.org; Fri, 2 May 2008 10:19:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 10:19:14 -0400 From: Dan Perez To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" Message-ID: <20080502141914.GA19507@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> References: <20080502135243.GA437@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.19]); Fri, 02 May 2008 14:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [PLUG] ssh key based authentication X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org I'm trying to ssh from vgcrdp to sprint. I removed the sprint user's .ssh directory and recreated it and repopulated the authorized_keys file with vgcrdp's public key and still nothing. cpucrpt1 # ls -ld ~sprint/.ssh drwx------ 2 sprint other 512 May 2 10:04 /oradata/tmpsprint/.ssh cpucrpt1 # ls -l ~sprint/.ssh total 2 -rw------- 1 sprint other 225 May 2 10:09 authorized_keys Here is the output from sprint running "ssh -v -l vgcrdp cpucrpt1": OpenSSH_3.7.1p2, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0.9.7c 30 Sep 2003 debug1: Reading configuration data /opt/sfw/etc/ssh_config debug1: Connecting to cpucrpt1 [10.128.109.37] port 22. debug1: Connection established. debug1: identity file /oradata/tmpsprint/.ssh/identity type -1 debug1: identity file /oradata/tmpsprint/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 debug1: identity file /oradata/tmpsprint/.ssh/id_dsa type 1 debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_3.7.1p2 debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.7.1p2 pat OpenSSH* debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.7.1p2 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received debug1: kex: server->client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: kex: client->server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY The authenticity of host 'cpucrpt1 (10.128.109.37)' can't be established. RSA key fingerprint is 5a:41:25:dc:54:b1:9f:72:e1:b7:42:1e:50:9c:25:d3. Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes Warning: Permanently added 'cpucrpt1,10.128.109.37' (RSA) to the list of known hosts. debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive debug1: Next authentication method: publickey debug1: Trying private key: /oradata/tmpsprint/.ssh/identity debug1: Trying private key: /oradata/tmpsprint/.ssh/id_rsa debug1: Offering public key: /oradata/tmpsprint/.ssh/id_dsa debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive debug1: Next authentication method: keyboard-interactive debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive debug1: Next authentication method: password vgcrdp@cpucrpt1's password: debug1: Authentication succeeded (password). debug1: channel 0: new [client-session] debug1: Entering interactive session. Last login: Fri May 2 08:50:25 2008 from 216.83.186.59 vgcrdp@cpucrpt1: And here is the output from vgcrdp trying: OpenSSH_3.7.1p2, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0.9.7c 30 Sep 2003 debug1: Reading configuration data /opt/sfw/etc/ssh_config debug1: Connecting to cpucrpt1 [10.128.109.37] port 22. debug1: Connection established. debug1: identity file /export/home/vgcrdp/.ssh/identity type -1 debug1: identity file /export/home/vgcrdp/.ssh/id_rsa type 1 debug1: identity file /export/home/vgcrdp/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_3.7.1p2 debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.7.1p2 pat OpenSSH* debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.7.1p2 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received debug1: kex: server->client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: kex: client->server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY debug1: Host 'cpucrpt1' is known and matches the RSA host key. debug1: Found key in /export/home/vgcrdp/.ssh/known_hosts:1 debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive debug1: Next authentication method: publickey debug1: Trying private key: /export/home/vgcrdp/.ssh/identity debug1: Offering public key: /export/home/vgcrdp/.ssh/id_rsa debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive debug1: Trying private key: /export/home/vgcrdp/.ssh/id_dsa debug1: Next authentication method: keyboard-interactive debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive debug1: Next authentication method: password sprint@cpucrpt1's password: And, just to make this email a little longer, here is the abbreviated output from vgcrdp trying to ssh to vgcesv. debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive debug1: Next authentication method: publickey debug1: Trying private key: /export/home/vgcrdp/.ssh/identity debug1: Offering public key: /export/home/vgcrdp/.ssh/id_rsa debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 149 debug1: read PEM private key done: type RSA debug1: Authentication succeeded (publickey). debug1: channel 0: new [client-session] debug1: Entering interactive session. Last login: Fri May 2 08:50:44 2008 from 10.128.109.37 mark.baker@hxti.com wrote [05/02/08]: > Hi Dan, > > Usually when I see these types of problems it stems from the file > permissions on the .ssh directory and key files. I usually start > debugging by logging in as one of the users that is having trouble using > the keys and trying to Ssh to a server with the -v flag, which will > almost always show you the problem right off the bat. > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dan Perez [mailto:dperez@sdf.lonestar.org] > > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 9:53 AM > > To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > > Subject: [PLUG] ssh key based authentication > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm having an issue with ssh key based authentication on a solaris > > box. I'm trying to set it up so I can login in to numerous userids on > > this box without a password. I've created my rsa keys and put my > > public keys in the users' authorized_keys files. I can ssh without a > > password to some of the users but not all of them and I can't find the > > difference with the two sets of users. > > > > The users that I can't ssh in to without a password are designated ftp > > accounts, but I don't see anything that actually makes them ftp > > accounts. They still have valid shells and shell access. I don't > > think the accounts are locked. The homedirs are in a different > > location, /oradata, but the users have full access to their homedirs > > and .ssh directories. > > > > I would really appreciate some pointers as to where to look. > > Thanks, dan > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > ______ > > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- > http://www.phillylinux.org > > Announcements - > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > > General Discussion -- > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri May 02 14:50:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 23814 invoked from network); 2 May 2008 07:50:37 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 May 2008 07:50:37 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 23766 invoked by uid 104); 2 May 2008 07:50:30 -0700 Received: from newman.rhd.org (HELO marshall.rhd.org) (63.139.112.166) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 May 2008 07:50:30 -0700 Received: from 10.10.5.11 [10.10.5.11] by marshall.rhd.org with XWall v3.42a ; Fri, 2 May 2008 10:50:25 -0400 Message-ID: <481B2A33.5060308@op.net> Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 10:50:27 -0400 From: jeff User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: [PLUG] monitoring/syslogging X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Thank you to all who replied. I've been going over the choices way too much recently. VMware is a gift from the linux god(s). I've been trying out various prebuilt machines, among them OSSIM, CACTI, ZENOSS and others. You dl the vm, plug it into VMplayer, configure to network, and you're off. What makes me really happy is that they throw everything you need into one package. As I was downloading it, I came across a page on configuring the program from scratch. It wasn't pretty but it WAS long. OSSIM is incredible. It's got so much stuff crammed into it that it will take months to learn just how to operate it, no less how to do it correctly or what it can possibly do. Haven't found event logging yet though. The internal Nessus scanner has already given me way too much to investigate on the network. As for logging, it's been pretty much as I expected: much research, much effort required, and entirely not what I want to be using. (JP - I've been going through your exhaustive list - very good reference) I'm not whining, just observing. I have tried out the logchecks, et al, and as plain a guy as I am, I would still prefer some graphics, like a dashboard graph kinda thing. Temporarily I'm testing out ActiveXperts Network Monitor, which will alert me to log issues but doesn't have very good filtering and doesn't actually forward the log - I have to remote to the servers. I had another one that was better but as one would expect, Windows took a dive and ate the program. Both programs are Windows-only. I'll be taking another look at Wireshark/tcpdump, which will do for finding issues as they're happening (provided I know where to look). I'd still like a larger view program though. If I can figure out OSSIM, that will probably do it. Updates as I figure them out. Thanks again for all the suggestions. The knowledgebase here is incredible. ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri May 02 14:52:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 24706 invoked from network); 2 May 2008 07:52:22 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 May 2008 07:52:22 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 24658 invoked by uid 104); 2 May 2008 07:52:17 -0700 Received: from mx.freeshell.ORG (HELO sdf.lonestar.org) (192.94.73.19) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 May 2008 07:52:17 -0700 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:dperez@faeroes.freeshell.org [192.94.73.9]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m42Eq9uN001965 for ; Fri, 2 May 2008 14:52:09 GMT Received: (from dperez@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.2/8.12.8/Submit) id m42Eq9VA015913 for plug@lists.phillylinux.org; Fri, 2 May 2008 10:52:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 10:52:09 -0400 From: Dan Perez To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" Message-ID: <20080502145209.GB17218@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> References: <20080502135243.GA437@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> <20080502141914.GA19507@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080502141914.GA19507@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.19]); Fri, 02 May 2008 14:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [PLUG] ssh key based authentication X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org A couple of people suggested permissions being too lax. The permissions on the sprint user's homedir were 777. I changed them to 755 and it works now. Thanks so much! dperez@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG wrote [05/02/08]: > I'm trying to ssh from vgcrdp to sprint. > > I removed the sprint user's .ssh directory and recreated it and > repopulated the authorized_keys file with vgcrdp's public key and > still nothing. > > cpucrpt1 # ls -ld ~sprint/.ssh > drwx------ 2 sprint other 512 May 2 10:04 /oradata/tmpsprint/.ssh > cpucrpt1 # ls -l ~sprint/.ssh > total 2 > -rw------- 1 sprint other 225 May 2 10:09 authorized_keys > > Here is the output from sprint running "ssh -v -l vgcrdp cpucrpt1": > OpenSSH_3.7.1p2, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0.9.7c 30 Sep 2003 > debug1: Reading configuration data /opt/sfw/etc/ssh_config > debug1: Connecting to cpucrpt1 [10.128.109.37] port 22. > debug1: Connection established. > debug1: identity file /oradata/tmpsprint/.ssh/identity type -1 > debug1: identity file /oradata/tmpsprint/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 > debug1: identity file /oradata/tmpsprint/.ssh/id_dsa type 1 > debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_3.7.1p2 > debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.7.1p2 pat OpenSSH* > debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 > debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.7.1p2 > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received > debug1: kex: server->client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none > debug1: kex: client->server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST sent > debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent > debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY > The authenticity of host 'cpucrpt1 (10.128.109.37)' can't be established. > RSA key fingerprint is 5a:41:25:dc:54:b1:9f:72:e1:b7:42:1e:50:9c:25:d3. > Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes > Warning: Permanently added 'cpucrpt1,10.128.109.37' (RSA) to the list of known hosts. > debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct > debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent > debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS > debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received > debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent > debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received > debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive > debug1: Next authentication method: publickey > debug1: Trying private key: /oradata/tmpsprint/.ssh/identity > debug1: Trying private key: /oradata/tmpsprint/.ssh/id_rsa > debug1: Offering public key: /oradata/tmpsprint/.ssh/id_dsa > debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive > debug1: Next authentication method: keyboard-interactive > debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive > debug1: Next authentication method: password > vgcrdp@cpucrpt1's password: > debug1: Authentication succeeded (password). > debug1: channel 0: new [client-session] > debug1: Entering interactive session. > Last login: Fri May 2 08:50:25 2008 from 216.83.186.59 > vgcrdp@cpucrpt1: > > And here is the output from vgcrdp trying: > OpenSSH_3.7.1p2, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0.9.7c 30 Sep 2003 > debug1: Reading configuration data /opt/sfw/etc/ssh_config > debug1: Connecting to cpucrpt1 [10.128.109.37] port 22. > debug1: Connection established. > debug1: identity file /export/home/vgcrdp/.ssh/identity type -1 > debug1: identity file /export/home/vgcrdp/.ssh/id_rsa type 1 > debug1: identity file /export/home/vgcrdp/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 > debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_3.7.1p2 > debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.7.1p2 pat OpenSSH* > debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 > debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.7.1p2 > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received > debug1: kex: server->client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none > debug1: kex: client->server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST sent > debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent > debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY > debug1: Host 'cpucrpt1' is known and matches the RSA host key. > debug1: Found key in /export/home/vgcrdp/.ssh/known_hosts:1 > debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct > debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent > debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS > debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received > debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent > debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received > debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive > debug1: Next authentication method: publickey > debug1: Trying private key: /export/home/vgcrdp/.ssh/identity > debug1: Offering public key: /export/home/vgcrdp/.ssh/id_rsa > debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive > debug1: Trying private key: /export/home/vgcrdp/.ssh/id_dsa > debug1: Next authentication method: keyboard-interactive > debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive > debug1: Next authentication method: password > sprint@cpucrpt1's password: > > And, just to make this email a little longer, here is the abbreviated > output from vgcrdp trying to ssh to vgcesv. > debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received > debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent > debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received > debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive > debug1: Next authentication method: publickey > debug1: Trying private key: /export/home/vgcrdp/.ssh/identity > debug1: Offering public key: /export/home/vgcrdp/.ssh/id_rsa > debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 149 > debug1: read PEM private key done: type RSA > debug1: Authentication succeeded (publickey). > debug1: channel 0: new [client-session] > debug1: Entering interactive session. > Last login: Fri May 2 08:50:44 2008 from 10.128.109.37 > > > > > mark.baker@hxti.com wrote [05/02/08]: > > Hi Dan, > > > > Usually when I see these types of problems it stems from the file > > permissions on the .ssh directory and key files. I usually start > > debugging by logging in as one of the users that is having trouble using > > the keys and trying to Ssh to a server with the -v flag, which will > > almost always show you the problem right off the bat. > > > > Mark > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dan Perez [mailto:dperez@sdf.lonestar.org] > > > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 9:53 AM > > > To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org > > > Subject: [PLUG] ssh key based authentication > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'm having an issue with ssh key based authentication on a solaris > > > box. I'm trying to set it up so I can login in to numerous userids on > > > this box without a password. I've created my rsa keys and put my > > > public keys in the users' authorized_keys files. I can ssh without a > > > password to some of the users but not all of them and I can't find the > > > difference with the two sets of users. > > > > > > The users that I can't ssh in to without a password are designated ftp > > > accounts, but I don't see anything that actually makes them ftp > > > accounts. They still have valid shells and shell access. I don't > > > think the accounts are locked. The homedirs are in a different > > > location, /oradata, but the users have full access to their homedirs > > > and .ssh directories. > > > > > > I would really appreciate some pointers as to where to look. > > > Thanks, dan > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > > ______ > > > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- > > http://www.phillylinux.org > > > Announcements - > > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > > > General Discussion -- > > http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org > > Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > > General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri May 02 14:54:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 25140 invoked from network); 2 May 2008 07:54:09 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 May 2008 07:54:09 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 25107 invoked by uid 104); 2 May 2008 07:54:05 -0700 Received: from phlshare-one.vinehosting.com (HELO phlshare-one.vinehosting.com) (216.112.37.200) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 May 2008 07:54:05 -0700 Received: from c-68-46-163-163.hsd1.nj.comcast.net ([68.46.163.163] helo=glennmobile) by phlshare-one.vinehosting.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Jrwdx-0002TG-EY for plug@lists.phillylinux.org; Fri, 02 May 2008 10:53:49 -0400 From: "Glenn Kelley" To: "'Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List'" References: <481ACAAD.80007@jpsdomain.org> In-Reply-To: <481ACAAD.80007@jpsdomain.org> Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 10:53:49 -0400 Message-ID: <019c01c8ac64$556d6980$00483c80$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcisKvw1zh02nDrVRVqVYhCkIdzdPwAOP5Uw Content-Language: en-us X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - phlshare-one.vinehosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.phillylinux.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - typo3usa.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: [PLUG] USB cable longer than 15 feet? X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org There are simple USB to Ethernet devices. That might help a ton http://www.buymebuyme.com/retail/customer/product.php?productid=44905&cat=27 7&partner=froogle thanks to froogle I found that to be the cheapest. Hope that helps If really stuck they also have these wireless :-) -----Original Message----- From: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org [mailto:plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org] On Behalf Of JP Vossen Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 4:03 AM To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org Subject: [PLUG] USB cable longer than 15 feet? I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this, but... Anyone ever see if USB cable longer than 15 feet, or is that the max allowed by the spec? I may need to replace a 25' parallel printer cable with USB, and 15' < 25'. I guess I can use a powered (or unpowered) hub to join 2 15' cables. Anyone got anything better? Later, JP ----------------------------|:::======|------------------------------- JP Vossen, CISSP |:::======| jp{at}jpsdomain{dot}org My Account, My Opinions |=========| http://www.jpsdomain.org/ ----------------------------|=========|------------------------------- "Microsoft Tax" = the additional hardware & yearly fees for the add-on software required to protect Windows from its own poorly designed and implemented self, while the overhead incidentally flattens Moore's Law. ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug __________ NOD32 3071 (20080502) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri May 02 15:30:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 29254 invoked from network); 2 May 2008 08:30:07 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 May 2008 08:30:07 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 29170 invoked by uid 104); 2 May 2008 08:30:00 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (HELO an-out-0708.google.com) (209.85.132.242) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 May 2008 08:30:00 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c34so418132anc.31 for ; Fri, 02 May 2008 08:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.251.18 with SMTP id y18mr4813288anh.2.1209742196812; Fri, 02 May 2008 08:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from AeonFlux ( [67.152.192.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d34sm8200332and.3.2008.05.02.08.29.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 02 May 2008 08:29:56 -0700 (PDT) To: "'Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List'" Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 11:29:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-reply-to: <20080502145209.GB17218@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcisZCggTG1t9whdQWqxriCgF5de6wABNGFw From: Tim Allen Message-ID: <481b3374.221e640a.20fb.55cc@mx.google.com> Subject: Re: [PLUG] ssh key based authentication X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org I had a similar problem a few weeks ago. I had a cron job running rsync over SSH to back up from servers here in Philadelphia to Idaho for backup once an hour, and noticed it stopped working. It turns out one of my devs changed the permissions on the grandparent directory by accident while under root reconfiging apache. The entire tree has to have properly secured permissions or SSH will fail (and rightly so!). There's an excellent tutorial with best practices suggestions and troubleshooting tips on rsync over SSH (and SSH key-gen in general) located here which I've found useful as this isn't the kind of thing I set up daily: http://troy.jdmz.net/rsync/index.html Regards, -Tim -----Original Message----- From: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org [mailto:plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org] On Behalf Of Dan Perez Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 10:52 AM To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List Subject: Re: [PLUG] ssh key based authentication A couple of people suggested permissions being too lax. The permissions on the sprint user's homedir were 777. I changed them to 755 and it works now. Thanks so much! ___________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Fri May 02 15:34:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: historian@netisland.net Received: (qmail 30326 invoked from network); 2 May 2008 08:34:39 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO entropia.netisland.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 May 2008 08:34:39 -0700 Return-Path: Delivered-To: alias-plug@lists.phillylinux.org Received: (qmail 30309 invoked by uid 104); 2 May 2008 08:34:36 -0700 Received: from hydra.blumenthals.com (HELO hydra.blumenthals.com) (24.75.25.80) by entropia.netisland.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 May 2008 08:34:36 -0700 Received: from pool-72-65-35-77.bflony.east.verizon.net ([72.65.35.77] helo=[192.168.1.50]) by hydra.blumenthals.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JrxHL-0001es-NX for plug@lists.phillylinux.org; Fri, 02 May 2008 11:34:31 -0400 From: Erek Dyskant To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List In-Reply-To: <481b3374.221e640a.20fb.55cc@mx.google.com> References: <481b3374.221e640a.20fb.55cc@mx.google.com> Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 11:34:31 -0400 Message-Id: <1209742471.32025.9.camel@olean.blumenthals.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hydra.blumenthals.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.phillylinux.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - blumenthals.com Subject: Re: [PLUG] ssh key based authentication X-BeenThere: plug@lists.phillylinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Id: Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org Errors-To: plug-bounces@lists.phillylinux.org For those of you who use rsync over ssh for backups, I've found about 1.5x to 2x performance increases by going to the rsync protocol instead of ssh, or using the rsync protocol tunneled through a VPN. Turns out that SSH has substantial CPU overhead when using it to send entire filesystems worth of data. Cheers, Erek Dyskant On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 11:29 -0400, Tim