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RE: [Plug] Potential new meeting place
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I know I am the new guy, and I am not trying to cause any arguments about
this, but if it is about a hundred people +, then I don't see a reason to
not start a SJ chapter. We could be connected off the CCity chapter or be
completly free from one another. I have never been to a meeting, so I am
not sure how you work things, but I want to be a part of this. If there are
a lot of people from Jersey who would like to start their own chapter, I am
sure that we could find a meeting place. I work in CCity, but 7 is cutting
it. I have to a bus to catch, a dog to feed, 2 cats to feed, and dinner to
make. If we had a SJ chapter, we could have a couple of extra minutes to
use to ourselves, and not have to feel like we are rushing. Let me know.
Thanks,
Nick
-----Original Message-----
From: Vale_Kenny@vanguard.com [mailto:Vale_Kenny@vanguard.com]
Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 11:20 AM
To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net
Subject: RE: [Plug] Potential new meeting place
Please read the whole thing, there are some amusing parts where I show my
Schizophrenia.. ;>
V
There are too many people coming in from NJ, and too many people in theCity
w/o
personal transport. And the train takes too damn long to get from CCity to
the
'burbs...
Listen Folks, unless ther is a HUGE groundswell from Pa burbanites (of which
I
am one), and no commentary from NJ and CCity, we pretty much have to stick
to
the City. Many of the core members are there, and several have no autos.
We need to go for a compromise here, where everyone is inconvienced equally.
If
you lived in NJ, and had to drive to 60+ miles to Conshie ( I think we have
a
couple of attendees from Eastern/Central Jersey) would you? Down 95 & 76?
You
couldn't *pay* me to make that commute, especially at rush hour..and SEPTA
from
CCity to Conshie.? How reliable is that, and SLOW. Amtrak is much faster,
but
costs around $5.00 one way..
By the same token, for those of us in the Pa. burbs, I personally wouldn't
even
think of going all of the way from KoPrussia to Lindenwold/Haddon Heights.
The
concept makes me cringe with thoughts of jams, exhaust, parking, Haddon
Heights
Cops...
I'm in a unique position for this, I have lived in Berlin NJ, Lindenwold NJ,
Center City, and just outside of KoP, Royersford to be exact. I have been a
contractor for various careers since I was 17 (11 yrs now), and have
travelled
the best and worst routes and times all over this area. Horsham, Blue Bell,
Ft
Washington, up and down 30 (from Malvern in Pa. to Atlantic City in NJ),
KoP,
Haddonfield, Haddon Heights, Berlin, Atco, Rittenhouse Sq., WashingtonSq.,
Hammonton, Bryn Mawr, 32 & SpringGarden (*shiver*), Bridesburg, New
Brunswick,
Mullica Hill, Salem (NJ)... just about freakin everywhere. Some of them are
*nightmarish* (Berlin to Kop during rush hour...bring your Valium)
I agree, I'd love to hop in my car, and cruise down 422 to 76 to Conshie in
15
minutes, but think about the folks coming from..lets say..Atco Nj..73N..15
minutes stopngo at 73/70, another 10 @ Moorestown, and then dowm 90 to the
Betsy
Ross(30 to the BFranklin is just as slow), through CC on the VSE, to 76, and
finally, after sitting on the Curve, you drop into Conshohocken..
Southern NJ is out as well..422->76 @ 4:45? Pack a dinner..76->676->Ben
Franklin
@ 5:30..yeah right, hope you filled up on fuel before you left, and have
good
air. Down 30E to Haddon Heights..enjoy the 30/130 circle and Adm. Wilson..
Basically, unless we plan to have no attendees from some specific area, we
almost have to meet in CCity, or roughly thereabouts.
We need:
Parking, preferrably cheap or free, and plentiful
Open roads or short commute
reliable, cheap, short/fast pub.transport
seating for 100+
Shit Folks, I think were on the verge of a attendee explosion, and we have
to be
prepared for that eventuality.
Sponsors? I know nothinbut.net is hosting the page, and many thanks, I
wouldn't
mind seeing a plug for nothinbut every once in a while,
besides the idea of free sodas & chips (mentioned in someone elses email)
intrugues me, Hmm...Linux, Coke, and Corn Chips, could heaven be too far
away?
My point is, we can't alienate a given (here comes the $.50 word)
demographic,
just to make it easier on oursleves. Linux was not built to make a small
group
of people ecstatic, it was built to supply a great OS, for everyone. That
included a few compromises, some extra steps, to make sure that we all can
use
it. Are we going to splinter, now that success is so close at hand? Lets
not
let egos and laziness get in the way of the incredible possibilities we
have.
Keep everyone in, share knowledge and trials, sympathize with the other
fellow.
Don't deny one group just because they are not in your situation, reach out
and
include everyone. Isn't that what RMS has been telling us all along? If we
split up, or deny others, we will be violating the principles ESR fronted in
the
CatB, any problem is simple id enough eyes look at it.
C'mon folks, give a little, so that we all benefit..
Peace,
Vale
Wow, I was on a roll...Sorry..
:)
V
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