Nick R on Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:09:15 -0400 (EDT)


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Re: [Plug] Trouble starting X remotely


Good point. I don't know if security would end up being an issue, but if it did I'm sure that some cheap off the shelf parts exist for that kind of thing. Outdated military hardware could be used for that.


From: Kyle Burton <mortis@voicenet.com>
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Subject: Re: [Plug] Trouble starting X remotely
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:13:37 -0400 (EDT)

The device would have to be sophisticated enough to handle ssh or something
like it, or everyone with a radio could sniff your traffic.


could you use rf (or whatever HAM radio ops use?) to tranismit the data?


k

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On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, Nick R wrote:

> Yeah, the only problem I can think of is the expense of the connection & the
> number of people who would find this usefull enough to buy it. The actual
> device could be just a screen, modem/cell phone, some sort of primitive
> video card type of dealie, & a jack for a one handed keyboard. You could
> make something like that for a few hundred at most.
>
>
> >From: "Daniel W. Ottey" <udottey@mcs.drexel.edu>
> >Reply-To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net
> >To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net
> >Subject: Re: [Plug] Trouble starting X remotely
> >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:38:51 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >Interesting... You mena like a portable "dumb terminal" ? I guess if it
> >had a cellular/satelite modem, that would be pretty cool. The actual
> >machine probably wouldn't be too expensive. Would probably be even
> >cheaper than a 386 laptop. Somehow you would have to get it Internet
> >access, but it wouldn't need to be VERY fast, since its only relaying
> >text. Thats an interesting idea. I like it! (I could telnet into my box
> >from anywhere I was and check my email... whoo!)
> >
> >Daniel W. Ottey
> >Sophomore Computer Science Student
> >Drexel University - Philadelphia, PA
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> >
> >
> >On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, Nick R wrote:
> >
> > > You know what I've always thought somebody should make (and by always, I
> > > mean for the past few months or less)? I think it would be cool to have
> >a
> > > little portable telnet client. Just something simple w/ a fairly small
> > > screen that could do telnet logins. It would be better than a PDA. The
> > > problem is that the connection could be expensive and the density of
> >people
> > > who would have Unix boxes to connect to would only be great enough in
> > > Silicon Valley, but it's a cool idea I think.
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Joshua Mazess <mazessj@op.net>
> > > >Reply-To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net
> > > >To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net
> > > >Subject: Re: [Plug] Trouble starting X remotely
> > > >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:32:41 -0400
> > > >
> > > >Most telnet clients display text only, no graphics. They are too "thin"
> >to
> > > >do
> > > >anything more complicated than that. Some do ReGIS, but I doubt that
> >can
> > > >handle
> > > >high resolution and many colors. You need an X server for any system
> >that
> > > >you
> > > >want to act as an I/O terminal. So, you would need an X server for
> >Win95
> > > >and
> > > >then you could run your X clients from Linux and direct I/O to the
> >Win95
> > > >box by
> > > >setting the DISPLAY environment variable (or by specifying on the
> >command
> > > >line
> > > >of the X client). --Josh
> > > >
> > > >Michael Leone wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have a machine running Slackware 3.4 (kernel 2.0.34) as an
> >intranet
> > > >web
> > > > > server, email server, etc, on my LAN - all the good stuff that Linux
> > > >does
> > > > > so well and silently. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway - I have X installed on this server. If I startx from the
> >server
> > > > > console, everything comes up just as it should. Life is good.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I telnet in (from a Win95 station), and (following the example in
> >_A
> > > > > Practical Guide to Linux_, the only book I have handy here at work)
> >do a
> > > > > echo $DISPLAY (to get the contents of the DISPLAY environmental
> >variable
> > > >to
> > > > > pass to X), I get a blank - not the ":0.0" example in the book.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, when I startx from the telnet session, X starts over on the
> >server
> > > > > console.
> > > > > And I have to go over to the server and stop X. Life is bad.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. What am I doing wrong? I want the X to show in my telnet window
> >on my
> > > > > workstation, not on the server. How can I pass X the info to show up
> > > >here
> > > > > rather than there?
> > > > > 2. Does the server have to already be running X?
> > > > >
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