Nick R on Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:55:51 -0400 (EDT)


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Re: [Plug] Microsoft Striks Again


Well if you're dialing in from your PC at home, then you can't really do that to a person, but even if you do capture anything, you only get what they access, not the password (unless you use a really bad system where it's part of the URL like hotmail, though it doesn't seem to happen to me like that).

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From: "Michael W. Ryan" <mryan@netaxs.com>
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Subject: Re: [Plug] Microsoft Striks Again
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:06:06 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Morgan Wajda-Levie wrote:

> The only problem I have with this and a lot of other coverage of the
> cracking is that it makes the assumption that e-mail normally is
> secure.  The hotmail cracking makes things a lot easier, but reading
> other people's e-mail is still a juvenile task, as is faking their
> address.  That's what pgp is for.

I have to agree, especially when it's using a clear text protocol like
HTTP.  If you'd like to see it for yourself, just install a decent
packet-capturing utility on your system.  Just start capturing packets,
and have someone access a web page, and you'll see.  I demonstrated this
to a student in my NT class with the Network Monitor utility from SMS, and
his access to his college's web-based email.

Michael W. Ryan, MCP, MCT     | OTAKON 1999
mryan@netaxs.com              | Convention of Otaku Generation
http://www.netaxs.com/~mryan/ | http://www.otakon.com/

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