RE: [Plug] certification

["Nick R" <laktar@hotmail.com>]

You've got a point, but you can't let your hatred of blind hatred turn into 
blind hatred. M$ isn't exactly the third reich or anything, but I think that 
all of the points raised here have been valid ones and not just M$ bashing. 
The sample tests I took were pretty stupid and didn't really give any 
indication whatsoever of my knowledge in the tested areas. The tests are 
also too short and don't involve enough practical parts.
Disclaimer- My nose is so stuffed up I think it's crushing my brain, so if 
any of this nonsensicle just use that there delete ability you have.

       -Laktar, a.k.a. Nick Rosen, laktar.dyndns.org


If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord:
52. I will hire a team of board-certified architects and surveyors to 
examine
my castle and inform me of any secret passages and abandoned tunnels that I
might not know about.
       -- Peter's Evil Overlord List, 
http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html


> From: "Vettese, Nick A" <NAVETTESE@delinvest.com>
> Reply-To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net
> To: "'plug@lists.nothinbut.net'" <plug@lists.nothinbut.net>
> Subject: RE: [Plug] certification
> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:23:40 -0400
>
> I am with Michael.  And I have brought this up before.  As soon as you
> mention Microsoft, everyone turns in little two year olds and repeat only
> what they read or hear.  I would rather speak to someone who had a real
> opinion that they can back up and not some two bit penguin on the sleeve
> wearing wanna be techie who NEEDS to be a follower.
> Sorry for the rant.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael W. Ryan [mailto:mryan@netaxs.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 12:18 PM
> To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net
> Subject: Re: [Plug] certification
>
>
> No, MS tests (or most certification tests, for that matter) aren't as
> comprehensive as they could be.  You are mistaken, IMNSHO, about the
> purpose of certification.  The purpose is NOT to confer an elite status,
> but to indicate a level of competancy.  If you think a certification is
> anything more than that, you deserve what you get.  And no, this doesn't
> just mean MS certs, but all certifications.  Tell me, does a certificate
> to teach in the state of Pennsylvania imply an elite level of expertise?
> Nope, nor should it.  That isn't the purpose of certification.
>
> Anyone who hires a person based solely on the possession of a piece of
> paper deserves what befalls them.
>
> Incidentally, I feel that I have a bit of a clue on these things as
>   a) I have a degree in education
>   b) have been a certified teacher in Pennsylvania.
>   c) work directly in the part of the IT industry dealing with
>      certifications (we train, write courseware, and write certification
>      questions).
>   d) I am a Microsoft Certified Trainer.
>
> Can we stop the "let's make up another excuse to bash Microsoft" game?  I
> find it insulting on a professional level and also find it not very
> conducive to Linux's future.
>
> Michael W. Ryan, MCP, MCT     | OTAKON 1999
> mryan@netaxs.com              | Convention of Otaku Generation
> http://www.netaxs.com/~mryan/ | http://www.otakon.com/
>
> PGP fingerprint: 7B E5 75 7F 24 EE 19 35  A5 DF C3 45 27 B5 DB DF
> PGP public key available by fingering mryan@unix.netaxs.com (use -l opt)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Plug maillist  -  Plug@lists.nothinbut.net
> http://lists.nothinbut.net/mail/listinfo/plug
>
> _______________________________________________
> Plug maillist  -  Plug@lists.nothinbut.net
> http://lists.nothinbut.net/mail/listinfo/plug

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

_______________________________________________
Plug maillist  -  Plug@lists.nothinbut.net
http://lists.nothinbut.net/mail/listinfo/plug