Re: [Plug] telnetting around a firewall - non-technical considerations

["Nick R" <laktar@hotmail.com>]

First, there's no rule that you can't telnet out. It's just been disabled at 
the proxy level.

Second, no, they're just idiots. I'm in the loop here and they're paranoid 
idiots i.e. they're trying to make a kiosk part of which involves a map of 
the school through which information can be accessed. Aside from the general 
Badness of such a proposition, they are holding on it for now because of the 
fear that somebody will perform a Columbine with the aid of said map. 
Overlooked of course is the fact that the blue prints to the school are 
publicly available to all and there is a map given to each student in the 
form of an agenda book.

Third, bah! They'd never figure it out and if they did, they'd just tell me 
not to do it again. I've gotten that for an actual offence that put them 
into a legally questionable position which I won't get into right now. For 
something as simple as telnetting out into my box at home they won't do 
anything.

       -Laktar, a.k.a. Nick Rosen, laktar.dyndns.org


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> Well, since they have a rule that you can't telnet out, and if you do
> telnet out (regardless of whether it's via a java applet or tunneled or
> other method used), I'd say there was no "technically about it"; you are
> breaking the rules. They said you can't do that from their equipment;
> you're trying to do it anyway.
>
> Earlier, you had said there was no good reason for them to lock out telnet.
> Maybe they have reasons you don't know about. Maybe they're worried that
> someone may do something rude via telnet from their systems (after all, if
> you telnet into someone else's system, you are IN someone else's system,
> and might be able to exploit some vulnerability that the managers of the
> other system may not be aware of);  and that your school may be liable.
>
> Whether you do telnet out or not is your business; not being involved, it's
> not really my concern. Hell, I've done all kinds of things I'm not supposed
> to. :-) Just be aware of what you're really doing, and of any consequences
> if they do catch you (I wouldn't rule out loss of priveleges, or even
> suspension; you might be surprised at how seriously a school would come
> down on someone who's hacked their systems).
>
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