Jon Galt on Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:25:10 -0500


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Re: [PLUG] MS Outlaws?


On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, Fred K Ollinger wrote:
> > > Be corp tried to GIVE their os away as a dual boot w/ Dell,
> > > and Dell refused. If you can't give your product away, then what further
> > > proof do you need? Dell wanted it, Be wanted it. Consumers would have
> > > benefitted as it was going to be a dual boot. Consumers who didn't care
> > > about Be could have ignored the tiny partition, and it would have
> > > automatically booted to windows. Obviously, the computer market was as
> > > free, at the
> > > time, as Russia was in the 80's, thanks to MS.

jongalt@pinn.net wrote:
> > I don't see anything you described as coercive.  Dell apparently made a
> > business decision based on their options.  How is that unfree?

On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Sandi Jonas wrote:
> It's my understanding that Dell did make "a business decision based on
> their options."  Their options at the time were put BeOS on their boxen
> and lose their contract from Microsoft (specifically the money from
> their sale of Microsoft products), or refuse BeOS.  So they "chose" to
> stay in business because they would have lost Microsoft's business had
> they accepted Be's business.  Maybe someone will have a better
> explanation, but as far as I know, there's your coercion.  

You have not described any coercive act by anybody.

You make choices about whether you are willing to do business with me, or
anybody else, and under what circumstances.
I make choices about whether I'm willing to do business with you, or
anybody else, and under what circumstances.
BeOS makes choices about whether they are willing to do business with you
or me, or anybody else, and under what circumstances.
Dell makes choices about whether they are willing to do business with you
or me, or anybody else, and under what circumstances.
Microsoft makes choices about whether they are willing to do business with
you or me, or anybody else, and under what circumstances.

If two people and/or companies who might do business are not BOTH willing,
then that particular business will not be conducted.  Where is the
coercion in any of this?

Nowhere.

Wayne


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