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RE: [PLUG] WAYYYY Off Topic.... [Speeding Ticket]DOOH!!
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Hmmm... all interesting points. I have spoken to one
laywer already. Unfortunately the district judge in
Paoli is quite strange so my fate will rest on his
mood that day. *sigh* Im hoping to just argue down
some points so I don't have to go to the required
hearing to talk about a license suspension - that's
what I really want to avoid. And no... I was not
drinking that night...
Cheerios, - JP
--- Bob Razler <bob@razler.com> wrote:
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> If I remember my evidence rules (it's been a while)
> the record of the
> ticket is either a business record or an official
> record which is not
> considered hearsay and therefore admissible. What
> they do need to
> prove is that the record is the record from the
> officer (chain of
> custody issue).
>
> Robert J. Razler, Esq.
> Approvals Manager
> Heritage Building Group, Inc.
> Suite A-100
> 3326 Old York Road
> Furlong, PA 18925
> 215.794.0550, ext. 117
> www.heritagebuildinggroup.com
> brazler@heritagebuildinggroup.com
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>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: eric@lucii.org [mailto:eric@lucii.org]
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 4:55 PM
> To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] WAYYYY Off Topic.... [Speeding
> Ticket]DOOH!!
>
> I'm not a lawyer but I'll bet if you dig through the
> rules of
> evidence you'll find that "someone from the
> department" does not
> have "first hand" knowledge... CRITICAL for
> evidence. I'll bet
> if you had a copy of and could cite this rule you'd
> be able to
> get the evidence (ticket) thrown out. <evil grin>
>
> Say... you were sober, right? I don' want any 90
> mph drunk
> driver slammin' into my family car some Saturday
> night!
>
> Eric
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 02:47:10PM -0500, Bob Razler
> wrote:
> > Hello:
> >
> > Sometimes it works, but the actual officer that
> wrote you the
> > ticket
> > doesn't have to show up. Just someone from the
> department with the
> > records. So usually someone is always assigned
> "court duty" for
> > that day.
> >
> > Robert J. Razler, Esq.
> > Approvals Manager
> > Heritage Building Group, Inc.
> > Suite A-100
> > 3326 Old York Road
> > Furlong, PA 18925
> > 215.794.0550, ext. 117
> > www.heritagebuildinggroup.com
> > brazler@heritagebuildinggroup.com
> > PGP Public Keys available at:
> > http://www.razler.com/PGPKey.htm
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: plug-admin@lists.phillylinux.org
> > [mailto:plug-admin@lists.phillylinux.org] On
> Behalf Of W. Chris
> > Shank Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 1:38 PM
> > To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org
> > Subject: Re: [PLUG] WAYYYY Off Topic.... [Speeding
> Ticket]DOOH!!
> >
> > DOOH!
> >
> > i've found that if you show up for a hearing,
> sometimes the cop
> > won't and it
> > will be dismissed. also, just showing up and being
> pathetic has
> > worked fo rme
> > in the past as well.
> >
> > also - if you have military experience - let 'em
> know - that can
> > help.
> >
> > chris
> >
> > On Monday 11 March 2002 09:54 am, you wrote:
> > > Hi all... Saturday night I got a gigantic
> speeding
> > > ticket on 202. Apparently I was doing 90 in a 55
> zone.
> > > Sounds a bit faster than I was going but we'll
> see.
> > > Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had any info I
> can
> > > look up/ web sites, etc to help me out with
> fighting
> > > it? Here are the particulars...
> > >
> > > Officer was a local Tredyffrin Township officer.
> > >
> > > I was driving on US202 at the time. (Can local
> > > officers give tickets on US highways?)
> > >
> > > The speed timing device was the "Tracker" which
> is
> > > manufactured by Kustom:
> > >
>
http://www.kustomsignals.com/product_body2.asp?product_id=39&cat_i
> > > d= 6&strpa
> > >gename=speed
> > >
> > > The last time it was calibrated was February
> 4th.
> > > I got the ticket saturday night, March 9th.
> (don't
> > > these things have to be checked every 30 days?)
> > >
> > > The distance he followed me was .85 miles. (Is
> there a
> > > minimum distance they have to follow you for
> using
> > > this device??)
> > >
> > > The penalty is a bunch of money, 5 points, and a
> > > hearing so you can imagine I'de like to find
> enough
> > > holes (if any) in this ticket to fight it. Sorry
> for
> > > getting off topic but Im pretty desperate to
> beat this
> > > and this is a local list. Thanks in advance for
> any
> > > suggestions!!! - JP
> > >
> > > =====
> > > JP Toto
> > > ViceClown@yahoo.com
> > >
> > >
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> # And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings..
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