W. Chris Shank on Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:31:06 -0400 |
Hey Jason, Thanks for the review. I've been wanting to play with Gentoo for a while. I even downloaded ISO's but haven't yet had a chance to try it. Now I know what I'm going to do with the WalMart Lindows box I just bought. thanks! > No distribution flames, please. We all have our opinions. > > To preface this review, let me tell you where I've come from, > Linux-wise. My first kernel was 0.99pl15. My first installation was > the SLS > distribution. Boy, were we sure happy when Slackware came around. In > those days, Pat Volkerding was doing a great job of maintaining the > distribution. Unfortunately, those days didn't last forever. These > days, Pat's getting paid to do the job, so it's better. > > Then a couple wacky college students decided they wanted to mimic the > SysV features of an actual package management system, and thus was > born RedHat. I think I still have my Mother's Day +0.1 CD in a box in > my parents' basement. Then it was off to Debian. While nice, stable, > and great tools, Debian got real old, real fast. I remember when > Debian was the first distribution to go to libc5, and they were first > to have a 2.0 kernel. Sadly, those days are also long gone. The Debian > people seem more interested in testing their frozen distribution for a > year than releasing an up-to-date release - truly a shame. Sure, > there's testing, but that's not "stable", now is it? I've had > (extremely) brief encounters with Caldera and Mandrake too. Caldera, > well, let's just say "Hated it." Mandrake was the "cooler, newer > RedHat," but that came with a price, instability. > > I've heard of Linux from Scratch (LFS), but never had the desire to > "build my own". Then I tried Gentoo. I admit it, they're winning me > over. You start by downloading an ISO image. You choose between the > small one, at 16MB, which is enough to boot the system and install the > bootstrap stuff, or the bigger one (over 100MB), which includes > half-built (stage2) and fully built (stage3) i686 systems. Longing for > some adventure, I did the smaller ISO, which only has stage1 on it. > Gentoo has some great directions on their site for installing - very > worthwhile. The other cool part of it is that because you do most of > your work by chroot'ing yourself into the stageN tree and building > stuff, you can do this from the comforts of your current box without > having to trash everything before starting. > > Starting with stage1, I decided to build binaries that were exclusive > to the P6 arch, which meant my compiler flags would be "-march=i686 -O3 > -pipe". I proceeded on to build stage2, which is really building your > glibc, compiler, binutils and the assorted other tools you'll need to > build the rest of the system. The stage2 build took just about an > hour on my P-4/1.8Ghz/1.5G RAM[1]. YMMV. On to stage 3, which I let > run overnight. The next morning I built a kernel, finished the install > and booted into my shiny new Gentoo installation. They have this > nifty tool called "emerge" (written in Python if you care to know) > which uses rsync to grab build information for packages (aka the > "portage" system), then uses wget to fetch source, and uses a script > file to build the packages you specify. > > I had meetings most of the day yesterday, so I told it to: > > emerge vim gnome mozilla nautilus-gtkhtml xmms bitchx openssh > > While I was gone, it installed each packages, along with their > dependencies. I came home to having built (to name a few): > > XFree86 4.2.0 > Xmms 1.2.5 > Vim 6.1 > Mozilla 1.0 > Gnome 2.0.0 > BitchX 1.0c19 (the non-trojaned version, of course) > openssh 3.4p1 > and many others. > > A little xf86config magic, and some rc-update commands, and I was up > and running. I must say, the system is very fast, compiles at > lightning speed, and looks mighty fine. If these guys keep this up, I > just might blow off RedHat for good... If you've got a "do it > yourself" mentality, and like to tinker, go for it. I've got my SB > Audigy, USB mouse & keyboard, Firewire CD-RW drive and all working, > with minimal trouble. > > > [1] Why so much RAM? I use VMware for lab work, and regularly have 3 > or > 4 VMs open at a time. > > -- > Jason Costomiris <>< | Technologist, geek, human. > jcostom {at} jasons {dot} org | http://www.jasons.org/ > Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur. > My account, My opinions. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Philadelphia Linux Users Group - http://www.phillylinux.org > Announcements-http://lists.phillylinux.org/mail/listinfo/plug-announce > General Discussion - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mail/listinfo/plug ______________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group - http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements-http://lists.phillylinux.org/mail/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mail/listinfo/plug
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