Chris Hedemark on Thu, 17 Apr 2003 07:13:10 -0400


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Re: [PLUG] Anyone tried replacing Exchange lately?


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On Wednesday, April 16, 2003, at 10:08 PM, gabriel rosenkoetter wrote:

And then there's the fact that SSL doesn't get enabled alternately
because the Windows admin doesn't know how to gen SSL certificates,
or because it "puts too much load on the server" to do crypto...

Well, it's a discussion we can take off-list, but setting up an in-house CA and doing an audit of network services that should be SSL enabled would be a very worthwhile project. If the UNIX goons are better equipped to facilitate that than the Windows guys, we can help them out. I don't think his servers are going to care if the certs were generated on a Linux box.


Crypto overhead is a real issue when doing lots of SSL but easily offloaded, at least in many cases, to hardware accelerators that can be attractively inexpensive.

http://soekris.com/vpn1201.htm

You're not the only one looking at alternatives. $NETWORK_GUY (we
probably could just get away with first names here, Chris... though
maybe that'd get confusing in this context ;^>... in any case, the
only person who'd notice PLUG commentary is Barry). Ahem, $NETWORK_GUY
threw the recent Oracle Exchange alternative advertising off as a
serious consideration to $CTO.

It sounds like there are a number of individuals who are talking to management but not to each other. Perhaps if we presented a unified front?


At our employer, Chris, it's not worth the brain power. Help me
bitch about getting IMAP/SSL (or SASL, or TSL... I really just don't
care, since mutt can do them all) working, go on with life. There
are far better things (I dunno... fixing Cold Fusion? ;^>) to be
doing. Better as in "better for the company".

Well, yes, there are a lot of places we should be using SSL, SASL or TLS but we're not. Yet another project that costs nothing in capital expense nevertheless needs to go up and down the chain of command for a lengthy review process.


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