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Today's Topics:
1. Interesting PGP article (Eugene Smiley)
2. Re: Sony Digital 8 Handycam DVR (William H. Magill)
3. Re: plug digest, Vol 1 #641 - 13 msgs (Jeff 'Jephree' Mealo)
4. Re: Re: plug digest, Vol 1 #641 - 13 msgs (gabriel rosenkoetter)
5. Re: quotes (Paul)
6. Equipment sale (Beldon Dominello)
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Message: 1
From: "Eugene Smiley" <eugene@esmiley.net>
To: "Plug@Lists. Phillylinux. Org" <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 10:20:25 -0400
Subject: [PLUG] Interesting PGP article
Reply-To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org
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David Shaw wrote over on pgp-users mailinglist
<pgp-users@cryptorights.org>:
>
> http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,110841,00.asp
>
> David
Wow. That's a pretty well balanced piece. That's the first
"mainstream" article that I've seen that acknowledges the
value of encryption to protect human lives.
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 12:53:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [PLUG] Sony Digital 8 Handycam DVR
From: "William H. Magill" <magill@mcgillsociety.org>
To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org
Reply-To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org
On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 03:25 PM, Jeff 'Jephree' Mealo wrote:
> I have a video project for school and am lucky enough to have found a
> teacher
> found of me enough so to lend me his camcorder. I'll be editing this
> digitally in either Adobe Premier or Cinellera [linux]. The manual
> describes
> a 4-pin -> 4-pin interface, is this what I'll need to hook it up to a
> PC or
> another DV/i.LINK/Firewire/IEEE 3349 (I believe it's 3349?)... device
> like a
> VCR. I know they have 4-pin -> 6-pin a lot cheaper. I plan to give
> this
> cable to him as a gift for the favor as I'll only need it once. If
> anyone's
> had to do something like this your input would be appreciated.
This is a standard "IEE1834" aka "FireWire" aka "iLink" cable. Probably
about $20 at any computer or camera store, or your local Radio Shack.
The camcorder world has opted to use the 4 pin end of the firewire
cable as its "standard" simply because the other two pins are power,
and any camcorder has/needs its own power supply. (Virtually all PC/Mac
interfaces have nowhere near enough power to drive the camera
transports, even if there was only one device on the buss. I don't
think the spec even allocates that much power.)
The host end is, by definition supposed to be a six pin connection.
However, some, as have been mentioned, don't provide power an offer
only a 4 pin connection.
Today, there are a number of manufactures offering "universal" 1394
cables -- these have an "adapter" which provide either a 4 or 6 wire
connector on either end. While they seem like a good idea at first,
they just offer an additional pair of parts (one adapter for each end)
to get lost in your camera bag/junk box... at a cost only 4 or 5 times
greater than a standard 4/4 or 4/6 or 6/6 cable.
By the way, I have a Digital 8 that I just plug straight into my iMac
and suck things down with iMovie. ... but it still takes months to edit
those vacation movies. But then you can burn them to dvds to impose
upon all your relatives as gifts. ... :)
T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
# Beige G3 - Rev A motherboard - 768 Meg
# Flat-panel iMac (2.1) 800MHz - Super Drive - 768 Meg
# PWS433a [Alpha 21164 Rev 7.2 (EV56)- 64 Meg]- Tru64 5.1a
magill@mcgillsociety.org
magill@acm.org
magill@mac.com
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 15:11:09 -0400
From: "Jeff 'Jephree' Mealo" <jeph@whydefy.us>
To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org
Organization: WhyDefy
Subject: [PLUG] Re: plug digest, Vol 1 #641 - 13 msgs
Reply-To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org
Heh, well I got some of the digits right :-). Thanks guys just making sure a
6-pin and 4-pin were interchangeable in *most* scenarios. Found a mac guy
down the street who might be able to lend me one.
Thanks,
Jeph
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 15:44:43 -0400
From: gabriel rosenkoetter <gr@eclipsed.net>
To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org
Subject: Re: [PLUG] Re: plug digest, Vol 1 #641 - 13 msgs
Reply-To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org
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On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 03:11:09PM -0400, Jeff 'Jephree' Mealo wrote:
> Heh, well I got some of the digits right :-). Thanks guys just making su=
re a=20
> 6-pin and 4-pin were interchangeable in *most* scenarios. Found a mac gu=
y=20
> down the street who might be able to lend me one.
Um, Jeff, if you neither change the "digest" subject line NOR quote
relevant material, it's pretty hard for us to know to what,
precisely, you're replying.
Just a thought. :^>
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gabriel rosenkoetter
gr@eclipsed.net
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 21:45:19 -0400
From: Paul <paul@dpagin.net>
To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org
Subject: Re: [PLUG] quotes
Reply-To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org
gabriel rosenkoetter wrote:
>On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 03:11:09PM -0400, Jeff 'Jephree' Mealo wrote:
>
>
>>Heh, well I got some of the digits right :-). Thanks guys just making
sure a
>>6-pin and 4-pin were interchangeable in *most* scenarios. Found a mac guy
>>down the street who might be able to lend me one.
>>
>>
>
>Um, Jeff, if you neither change the "digest" subject line NOR quote
>relevant material, it's pretty hard for us to know to what,
>precisely, you're replying.
>
>Just a thought. :^>
>
Definately change the subject line.
To me, what Jeff wrote didn't really require quotes. It sounds like a
thread summary/conclusion addressed to all in response to all who
participated in the thread. Although, the thread is kind of broken
because the subject line wasn't changed.
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Message: 6
From: Beldon Dominello <beldon@speakeasy.net>
To: PhillyLUG List <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 23:51:06 -0400
Subject: [PLUG] Equipment sale
Reply-To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org
Hello all--
I've hooked up with a consulting firm here in Connecticut, and we have some
old inventory we need to clear out. We have some processors (1 - 2 GHz PIII
and Celerons), mobos (Socket 370 and a dual Socet 370 capable board), a
laptop (800MHz IBM Thinkpad), and a prebuilt system or two.
We also have a dual 200MHz Pentium Pro server (DEC) which can be had for
basically the cost of shipping.
I wanted the group to have first dibs on the stuff. Please contact me at
beldon@naylortech.com if anyone's interested.
-Beldon
--
Bombeck's Rule of Medicine:
Never go to a doctor whose office plants have died.
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