Jeff Abrahamson on Thu, 4 Sep 2003 10:41:07 -0400


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Re: [PLUG] gpg spoof?


Yup, that works, thanks. Indeed, just "|gpg -o /dev/null" confirms it,
since the sig appears alone if it's a real sig.

-J


On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 09:43:34AM -0400, Erin Mulder wrote:
>   [79 lines, 421 words, 2777 characters]  Top characters: enioar\n_
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> What if you also run |gpg -o temp.txt, then cat temp.txt and compare.
> 
> (temp.txt should only get the message not the signature, so if the
> signature's in there too, then it's a spoof.)
> 
> Cheers,
> Erin
> 
> Jeff Abrahamson wrote:
> | I received an encrypted and signed email which I decrypt and verify by
> | piping through gpg (no options). The output looked like below (the
> | part indented by two spaces).
> |
> | In mutt, I type "|gpg<return>"
> |
> | Now, I don't suspect Erin was trying to spoof me, and she had enclosed
> | a semi-random string that I had encrypted to her. So this one case
> | doesn't bother me.
> |
> | But, in general, how can I distinguish between the end of the
> | encrypted message and the beginning of the "gpg: Signature ..." stuff?
> | Couldn't someone just include such a (forged) signature block at the
> | end of their message, then encrypt the whole thing without signing,
> | and so convince me that the message was signed by someone else?
> |
> |   You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key for
> |   user: "Jeff Abrahamson <jeff@purple.com>"
> |   2048-bit ELG-E key, ID 29595FCD, created 2002-05-02 (main key ID
> 0D1DAE4B)
> |
> |   gpg: encrypted with 2048-bit ELG-E key, ID ADD31B0A, created 2003-08-28
> | 	"Erin Mulder <meara@alumni.princeton.edu>"
> |   gpg: encrypted with 2048-bit ELG-E key, ID 29595FCD, created 2002-05-02
> | 	"Jeff Abrahamson <jeff@purple.com>"
> |   Hi Jeff,
> |
> |   It was great meeting you all.   Thanks for signing my key.
> |
> |   Cheers,
> |   Erin
> |
> |   Jeff Abrahamson wrote:
> |   > Hi, Erin.
> |   >
> |   > Could you please respond to this message, signed and encrypted, so
> |   > that I know you are who you say you are?
> |   >
> |   > Here's a semi-random string to include in your response:
> |   >
> |   >     153758709bcbdfc23f745c0b4656939632cfb6df
> |   >
> |   > Thanks.
> |   >
> |   gpg: Signature made Thu 04 Sep 2003 12:15:32 AM EDT using DSA key ID
> A54DA2DF
> |   gpg: Good signature from "Erin Mulder <meara@alumni.princeton.edu>"
> |   gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
> |   gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to
> the owner.
> |   Primary key fingerprint: 8609 5F8C E335 F93F 40CC  14B8 10FA 4C88
> A54D A2DF
> |
> |
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux)
> Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
> 
> iD8DBQE/V0GGEPpMiKVNot8RAjz6AKCYcnD/raL6J+ovny2dkPuwRaI5vQCcDPKC
> kEBNJ3OGZ8EqIV6sxIxAubs=
> =9YVl
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
> 
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-- 
 Jeff

 Jeff Abrahamson  <http://www.purple.com/jeff/>
 GPG fingerprint: 1A1A BA95 D082 A558 A276  63C6 16BF 8C4C 0D1D AE4B

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