M.Simons on Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:02:05 -0400 |
On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, William H. Magill wrote: > On Friday, September 5, 2003, at 10:07 AM, Craig Brennan wrote: > Once again, however, "Microsoft's contribution will not be monetary, > but in services worth millions of dollars, including a full-time > Didn't Microsoft get dragged through the courts recently about this > kind of "non-monetary" contribution ... especially in the Education > Market? I don't think so. I think you're talking about the case where they had to pay a settlement (for something, I forget what) and they tried to say "We'll pay in software, expertise..." etc.. in this case, there is no legal issue. (Unless you are talking about rules about government aqusitions, bidding, etc.) They're welcome to give away whatever in services, etc. they wish. I would also wonder about ethical experimentation and privacy rights. Clearly they are using this as an opportunity to study the impact of technology in a real world environment (real school), and learn from that/make 'better' products as a result. As far as whether other OS'es will be allowed, of course not. I'm sure it's in their agreements. Just like when Coke or Pepsi was signing exclusivity contracts with schools & universities that the school would only sell their products on campus. I DID mind this when I was going to Uni and my school signed a contract to this effect, because it limited my choices. However, in relation to this case I don't mind this sort of closed-system experimentation, I think it's certainly understandable to try to see how education adapts and uses the advanced and ubiquitous computing tools. It is certainly understandable that it would be much easier to study and quantify data from a seamlessly integrated system. It's also understandable that they will attempt to use this for marketing. I'd also like to see however, what they do, if anything, when a student brings in his non-MS laptop, pda, or whatever, and surfs the net, or surruptiously installs a non MS-os on a wired computer, whether it be one of the schools, or one brought in. Or maybe if the students want to form a FLOSS or LUG, or other non-MS-computing related student club. Now, I did initially get the wrong idea of this based on the Slashdot post.. I thought MS was ponying up a lot more money, technology, and software than they probably are, but based on reading the article on the phila inky's site, I see that this doesn't seem to be the case, or be implied at all, it appears that either I'm just too tired and didn't read it well, or the Slashdot submitter had access to another source of information besides the Inky. What it looks like to me is that the school district is paying a lot of money for a high-tech school, and Microsoft is throwing in an in-house salesma--- errr, I mean, CONSULTANT, for free. When I first saw this based on the Slashdot posting's spin (there is either clear spin, or serious misreading of the article), I just thought "cool!" [note: I haven't read any of the Slashdot discussion on this one.] I still kinda think cool.. although not as cool cause M$ isn't ponying up as much money/tech as I originally thought. It's not like the school district has signed up for an exclusive contract over any more schools than this one (although I could understand them having at least one school at each level and am actually surprised they didn't do this with an elementary school) so in effect they don't limit student's choice. Hey, when we went to school, it was either no computers, or Apple. (Eventually my highschool did get a classroom of IBM-Clones for the business track.. I never did find out what they taught in there besides secretarial skills.) I wonder what Paul Hampel thinks. -- msimons@slackware.com INFORMATION*MEDIA*PHOTOGRAPHY msimonsmail@yahoo.com Creative Arts Resource Project : PTMaterials Exchange : www.pleasetake.org A 501(c)3 Non-profit Organization Arts and Environmental Resource Network Shopping Online? Use http://www.igive.com/carp/ make donations at no cost! Do you like what I do? Consider donating resources to CARP; Ask me how! _________________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org Announcements - http://lists.netisland.net/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion -- http://lists.netisland.net/mailman/listinfo/plug
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