George A. Theall on 1 Sep 2005 01:53:02 -0000 |
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 08:46:43PM -0400, Eugene Smiley wrote: > If you don't check then how do you know that it's really coming from > bay15-f3.bay15.hotmail.com? It's just as easy to spoof received lines > as it is to spoof FROM and MAIL FROM... Spoofing the Received header my MTA adds isn't so easy, and that's where the hotmail hostnames appear. > You are also relating to the wrong part of the email. What SPF > Classic checks is the MAIL FROM aka ENVELOPE FROM Would you mind pointing out in what way I was "relating to the wrong part of the email"? I don't recall actually making any such distinction, but perhaps I'm getting sloppy in my old age. In any case, here's a concrete example. Note the Return-Path header and the IP passing the message to my mail server (64.4.31.2) both refer to Hotmail. ---- snip, snip, snip ---- Return-Path: <aarontutu2012@hotmail.com> Received: from hotmail.com (bay13-f2.bay13.hotmail.com [64.4.31.2]) by salt.tifaware.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j72DHfY6032615 for <theall@tifaware.com>; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 09:17:47 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 05:30:21 -0700 Message-ID: <BAY13-F2B09FE9814A3F244D0FD1BDC20@phx.gbl> Received: from 216.139.164.27 by by13fd.bay13.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 02 Aug 2005 12:30:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.139.164.27] X-Originating-Email: [aarontutu2012@hotmail.com] X-Sender: aarontutu2012@hotmail.com Reply-To: tutu_aaron@yahoo.co.in From: "aaron tutu" <aarontutu2012@hotmail.com ---- snip, snip, snip ---- So, what good is SPF in such cases? George -- theall@tifaware.com Attachment:
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