Art Alexion on 30 Oct 2006 15:41:33 -0000


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Re: [PLUG] After dist_upgrade, kubuntu system won't boot


On Monday 30 October 2006 00:14, Will Dyson wrote:
> On 10/29/06, sean finney <seanius@seanius.net> wrote:
> > fwiw, i'm starting to hear a lot of noise about upgrades to edgy
> > similarly sucking. the common thread in all of these seems to be (a) the
> > use of apt-get instead of the ubuntu upgrade-nanny^H^H^H^H^Hmanager and
> > (b) the presence of other non-ubuntu-installed packages such as
> > automatix/easyubuntu.
>
> I've had decent luck with using aptitude for updates of both Debian
> and Ubuntu. It makes much better dependency resolution choices than
> apt-get.
>
> I do think that putting specific knowledge about the upgrade in
> update-manager is the wrong way to go, but I can see the expediency of
> it.

My understanding is that aptitude keeps a dependency log that makes package 
removal more thorough and accurate, as well as handling "suggested" 
and "recommended" packages better.  I also am led to understand that you 
either use aptitude all the time or not at all, so I never switched since I 
used apt-get for a long time before discovering aptitude.

Dapper seems to run adept in the background to notify the user of available 
updates.  Adept does not seem to have any advantages over apt-get; more like 
a KDE version of synaptic.  I like synaptic better than apt-cache (or adept) 
for finding packages.

I understand the problem with the dapper -> edgy dist-upgrade requires the 
command line apt-get because some incompatible upgrades are being made to the 
gui interface during the upgrade process.

My problems seem to have nothing to do with that as I used apt-get 
dist-upgrade.  It just went badly because of some buggy packages that wanted 
to overwrite each others files.  This seemed to through the entire upgrade 
off; even packages not directly affected -- for example, my kernel, if you 
look to the beginning of this thread.
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