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Re: [PLUG] Wish list for PLUG talks --> OpenWRT

I deal with a lot of "massive" storage therefore, I would love to see

I am sure we have some experienced vets who deal with massive amounts
of data and I think I could benefit out of a presentation like that.

Also, thanks for asking the question.

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Art Alexion <> wrote:
> Sounds like a specious rationale to me. And a fair amount of the
> business grade Dell Optiplexes I deal with at work are Broadcom, while
> my home equipment includes Realtek. And while a lot of commercial
> software companies give away a non-business version, I don't see how
> that position, in and of itself, is a f/oss value.
> On 3/2/09, Brian Vagnoni <> wrote:
>> DD-WRT is free for Broadcom wireless chip sets only. You must pay an
>> activation fee to use the firmware permanently on anything else even
>> Atheros. DD-WRT does follow typical FOSS ideology.
>> In one hand you have Broadcom who have proprietary drivers and code and the
>> folks at DD-WRT make that firmware available for free. On the other hand you
>> have Atheros who is working with the FOSS community building their stuff
>> into the kernel and DD-WRT charges for that. DD-WRT in the future may
>> include the Realtek wireless chip sets in the future as part of the no
>> charge version.
>> My understanding about the way the folks at DD-WRT see it is that Broadcom
>> gear is considered residential and therefore no charge, and anything else is
>> considered PRO gear which they charge for. My understanding is that they
>> aren't charging for support they are charging for activation which is where
>> it sticks in the crawl for most FOSS folks.
>> There is quite a lot of bad blood and politics between the DD-WRT, Sveasoft,
>> and the true ideological FOSS groups. I personally will use whatever works
>> best for customers or myself in a given situation. It's like a $25
>> activation fee if I wanted to use it with say my UBNT Router Station.
>> I've also heard claims on some blogs of security issues with DD-WRT. Though
>> these claims could just be pro-FOSS propaganda. I haven't see any papers on
>> it, just talk. The politics are very annoying as it's hard to get to the
>> real truth.
>> As far as Open-WRT not having a web gui that's not correct. There is X-WRT
>> and Webif, as well which run on top of Open-WRT.
>> Honestly and with regard to the incredible skill level using the Linux
>> command line I find here on this list I don't see why folks just don't use
>> Open-WRT. However, if you just want something to plug and play with your
>> Linksys/Broadcom router and don't care about the politics DD-WRT is the way
>> to go.
>> One thing I really like about the 3rd party firmware is being able to setup
>> a cron job to reboot the wireless router daily; saves on service calls big
>> time. Most customers I deal with are non-IT so they don't want to be
>> bothered or billed for any of this stuff. They just want to focus on their
>> core non-IT business and have the IT tools for them.
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