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Re: [PLUG] ATT/bellsouth.net email problem
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Here are the responses I get on my system to the ones you made...
doug@bridget:~> host -t mx bellsouth.net
bellsouth.net mail is handled (pri=10) by gateway-f1.isp.att.net
bellsouth.net mail is handled (pri=10) by gateway-f2.isp.att.net
doug@bridget:~> host gateway-f1.isp.att.net
Host not found, try again.
doug@bridget:~> host gateway-f2.isp.att.net
Host not found, try again.
doug@bridget:~> host -t soa bellsouth.net
bellsouth.net start of authority auth-dns.asm.bellsouth.net
hostmaster.be llsouth.net(
2010100101 ;serial (version)
1800 ;refresh period
900 ;retry refresh this often
432000 ;expiration period
10800 ;minimum TTL
)
doug@bridget:~> host -t mx bellsouth.net auth-dns.asm.bellsouth.net
Using domain server:
Name: auth-dns.asm.bellsouth.net
Address: 205.152.37.24
Aliases:
bellsouth.net mail is handled (pri=10) by gateway-f1.isp.att.net
bellsouth.net mail is handled (pri=10) by gateway-f2.isp.att.net
doug@bridget:~> host -t mx bellsouth.net auth-dns.mia.bellsouth.net
Using domain server:
Name: auth-dns.mia.bellsouth.net
Address: 205.152.144.24
Aliases:
bellsouth.net mail is handled (pri=10) by gateway-f1.isp.att.net
bellsouth.net mail is handled (pri=10) by gateway-f2.isp.att.net
doug@bridget:~> host -t mx bellsouth.net auth-dns.msy.bellsouth.net
Using domain server:
Name: auth-dns.msy.bellsouth.net
Address: 205.152.132.24
Aliases:
bellsouth.net mail is handled (pri=10) by gateway-f1.isp.att.net
bellsouth.net mail is handled (pri=10) by gateway-f2.isp.att.net
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010, Jason Stelzer wrote:
> Couple things.....
>
> You should be trying more than just the one address. They have more than a
> single mx record. One should hopefully be valid.
>
> Check to see if you're getting stale data from an old cached response.
>
> (cynic@paranoia)(03:39pm:10/28/10)
> (~)> host -t mx bellsouth.net
> bellsouth.net mail is handled by 10 gateway-f1.isp.att.net.
> bellsouth.net mail is handled by 10 gateway-f2.isp.att.net.
> (cynic@paranoia)(09:25am:10/29/10)
> (~)> host gateway-f1.isp.att.net
> gateway-f1.isp.att.net has address 204.127.217.16
> (cynic@paranoia)(09:25am:10/29/10)
> (~)> host gateway-f2.isp.att.net
> gateway-f2.isp.att.net has address 207.115.11.16
> (cynic@paranoia)(09:25am:10/29/10)
> (~)> host -t soa bellsouth.net
> bellsouth.net has SOA record auth-dns.asm.bellsouth.net.
> hostmaster.bellsouth.net. 2010100101 1800 900 432000 10800
>
> So they're using what looks like a date as the serial, and to me it looks
> like it was updated fairly recently. They have a fairly long expire time, so
> it could happen that there' s old crap in a cache between you and a dns
> update.
>
> I'll go reboot the internet real quick. Let me know if it clears up :)
>
> In the mean time, see what you're getting for the soa data. They may have a
> lame nameserver too, but the responses I get back from the authoritative
> nameservers is valid. If the serial is different than the one above, that's
> a big hint that there's something rotten in a cache waiting on expiration.
>
> whois bellsouth.net
> <snip>
> DNS Servers:
>
> auth-dns.asm.bellsouth.net
> auth-dns.mia.bellsouth.net
> auth-dns.msy.bellsouth.net
>
>
> (cynic@paranoia)(09:30am:10/29/10)
> (~)> host -t mx bellsouth.net auth-dns.asm.bellsouth.net
> Using domain server:
> Name: auth-dns.asm.bellsouth.net
> Address: 205.152.37.24#53
> Aliases:
>
> bellsouth.net mail is handled by 10 gateway-f1.isp.att.net.
> bellsouth.net mail is handled by 10 gateway-f2.isp.att.net.
> (cynic@paranoia)(09:30am:10/29/10)
> (~)> host -t mx bellsouth.net auth-dns.mia.bellsouth.net
> Using domain server:
> Name: auth-dns.mia.bellsouth.net
> Address: 205.152.144.24#53
> Aliases:
>
> bellsouth.net mail is handled by 10 gateway-f2.isp.att.net.
> bellsouth.net mail is handled by 10 gateway-f1.isp.att.net.
> (cynic@paranoia)(09:30am:10/29/10)
> (~)> host -t mx bellsouth.net auth-dns.msy.bellsouth.net
> Using domain server:
> Name: auth-dns.msy.bellsouth.net
> Address: 205.152.132.24#53
> Aliases:
>
> bellsouth.net mail is handled by 10 gateway-f1.isp.att.net.
> bellsouth.net mail is handled by 10 gateway-f2.isp.att.net.
>
>
> If the serial you get does not line up with the answers you get from their
> official name servers, then you have a cache problem somewhere.
>
> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Julien Mills <julienfmills@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> > I can't find it and I'm using Earthlink.
> >
> >
> > julien@rocky:~$ ping gateway-f1.isp.att.net
> > ping: unknown host gateway-f1.isp.att.net
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > Julien Mills julienfmills@yahoo.com
> >
> > Doug:
> >
> > I have verizon FIOS but I forget if I use their DNS or OpenDNS.
> >
> > Either way, I can see it:
> > ping gateway-f1.isp.att.net
> > PING gateway-f1.isp.att.net (204.127.217.16) 56(84) bytes of data.
> > 64 bytes from gateway-f1.isp.att.net (204.127.217.16): icmp_seq=1 ttl=52
> > time=83.5 ms
> > 64 bytes from gateway-f1.isp.att.net (204.127.217.16): icmp_seq=2 ttl=52
> > time=83.3 ms
> > 64 bytes from gateway-f1.isp.att.net (204.127.217.16): icmp_seq=3 ttl=52
> > time=86.9 ms
> > ^C
> > - --- gateway-f1.isp.att.net ping statistics ---
> > 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 6126ms
> > rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 83.338/84.611/86.941/1.683 ms
> >
> > Hope that helps,
> > Eric
> >
> >
> > On 10/29/2010 12:45 AM, Doug Crompton wrote:
> > >
> > > I thought I would throw this out here for comments. I have been having
> > > problems with mail to bellsouth.net In googling I see that others
> > > seem to have this problem but no real answers. I have had alternate
> > > contact with at least one of the recipients in the queue and they claim
> > > they are getting other emails. This seems to be broken from just some
> > > places. Using sendmail. Below is system info. The bottom line is that my
> > > named is not finding 'gateway-f1.isp.att.net' Why I have no idea. I
> > have
> > > updated the root servers and restarted. All other operations lookups,
> > > mail, etc. work fine.
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone have any ideas?
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
> > >
> > > My sendmail Queue....
> > >
> > > o9R55W814301 895 Wed Oct 27 01:05 <doug@crompton.com<http://mc/compose?to=doug@crompton.com>
> > >
> > > (Deferred: Name server: gateway-f1.isp.att.net.: host
> > > name lo) <hostmaster@bellsouth.net<http://mc/compose?to=hostmaster@bellsouth.net>
> > >
> > >
> > > o9QFBtE07562 1469 Tue Oct 26 11:11 owner-nadc@crompton.com<http://mc/compose?to=owner-nadc@crompton.com>
> > > (Deferred: Name server: gateway-f1.isp.att.net.: host
> > > name lo) morrisjohnr@bellsouth.net<http://mc/compose?to=morrisjohnr@bellsouth.net>
> > >
> > > o9P2WV621087 1987 Sun Oct 24 22:32 owner-chs68@crompton.com<http://mc/compose?to=owner-chs68@crompton.com>
> > > (Deferred: Name server: gateway-f1.isp.att.net.: host
> > > name lo) Jennie Belle Doolittle <jgfalbey@bellsouth.net<http://mc/compose?to=jgfalbey@bellsouth.net>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > doug@bridget:~> nslookup gateway-f1.isp.att.net
> > > Server: slate
> > > Address: 192.168.0.2
> > >
> > > *** slate can't find gateway-f1.isp.att.net: Non-existent host/domain
> > >
> > > doug@bridget:~> nslookup gateway-f1.isp.att.net 4.2.2.1
> > > Server: vnsc-pri.sys.gtei.net
> > > Address: 4.2.2.1
> > >
> > > Non-authoritative answer:
> > > Name: gateway-f1.isp.att.net
> > > Address: 204.127.217.16
> > >
> > > slate:/home/doug # named -v
> > > BIND 9.3.2
> > >
> > > slate:/home/doug # ping 204.127.217.16
> > > PING 204.127.217.16 (204.127.217.16) 56(84) bytes of data.
> > > 64 bytes from 204.127.217.16: icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=92.1 ms
> > > 64 bytes from 204.127.217.16: icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=91.1 ms
> > > 64 bytes from 204.127.217.16: icmp_seq=3 ttl=52 time=93.3 ms
> > >
> > > --- 204.127.217.16 ping statistics ---
> > > 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2003ms
> > > rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 91.199/92.246/93.379/0.958 ms
> > >
> > >
> > > slate:/home/doug # traceroute 204.127.217.16
> > > traceroute to 204.127.217.16 (204.127.217.16), 30 hops max, 40 byte
> > > packets
> > > 1 router10 (192.168.0.10) 0.963 ms 0.620 ms 0.778 ms
> > > 2 adsl-gw.oldcity.dca.net (216.158.26.1) 12.529 ms 14.207
> > ms 14.248
> > > ms
> > > 3 core-2.hq.dca.net (216.158.48.2) 13.011 ms 12.150 ms 12.900 ms
> > > 4 core-225-gig-vlan-500.xo.dca.net (216.158.2.4) 15.767 ms 16.393
> > ms
> > > 13.857 ms
> > > 5 66.236.204.165.ptr.us.xo.net (66.236.204.165) 13.121 ms 13.487 ms
> > > 13.287 ms
> > > 6 ge11-1-4d0.mcr2.philadelphia-pa.us.xo.net (216.156.8.157) 14.062 ms
> > > 15.913 ms 12.877 ms
> > > 7 vb1131.rar3.nyc-ny.us.xo.net (216.156.0.45) 30.994 ms 27.369 ms
> > > 15.454 ms
> > > 8 ae0d1.cir1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net (207.88.13.41) 15.186 ms 16.248 ms
> > > 17.342 ms
> > > 9 206.111.13.246.ptr.us.xo.net (206.111.13.246) 18.649 ms 17.430 ms
> > > 15.903 ms
> > > 10 cr1.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.122.81.106) 91.900 ms 96.093 ms 91.863
> > > ms
> > > 11 cr2.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.122.1.2) 95.273 ms 93.425 ms 92.875 ms
> > > 12 cr1.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.122.2.53) 91.650 ms * 91.989 ms
> > > 13 cr1.sffca.ip.att.net (12.122.4.121) 90.978 ms 91.347 ms 92.029
> > ms
> > > 14 12.83.59.25 (12.83.59.25) 90.051 ms 93.161 ms 90.353 ms
> > > 15 151.164.38.26 (151.164.38.26) 102.580 ms 99.375 ms 96.137 ms
> > > 16 ded2-p8-0.snfcca.sbcglobal.net (151.164.95.113) 91.156 ms 91.592
> > ms
> > > 88.924 ms
> > > 17 ATTSI-2of2-San-Francisco-1155380.cust-rtr.pacbell.net (64.172.39.78)
> > > 91.862 ms 91.688 ms 92.356 ms
> > > 18 * * *
> > > 19 * * *
> > > 20 * * *
> > > 21 * * *
> > > 22 * * *
> > > 23 * * *
> > > 24 * * *
> > > 25 * * *
> > > 26 * * *
> > >
> > >
> > >>From another system I get....
> > >
> > > slate:/var/lib/named # nslookup
> > >> gateway-f1.isp.att.net
> > > ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ****************************
> > > * Doug Crompton *
> > > * Richboro, PA 18954 *
> > > * 215-431-6307 *
> > > * *
> > > * doug@crompton.com <http://mc/compose?to=doug@crompton.com> *
> > > * http://www.crompton.com *
> > > ****************************
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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