Randall A Sindlinger on 23 Mar 2011 14:55:34 -0700


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Re: [PLUG] Is there a better name for...


LogCop?  

These names are already "taken" - BigBrother [1] and Sawmill [2].
Hmm, so is logcop, apparently [3].  And now that I bother checking, so 
is Logsurfer [4,5] :-)

I dunno... what would make it a "better" name?  Sexier, or more
descriptive?

It looks like it's possible Todd Atkins of Stanford University may have 
written swatch in the same time period as Ranum and Avolio [5].  TechRepublic 
reviewed logcheck and swatch in 2001 [6].

If you're tinkering with resurrecting the project, I might be interested
in contributing.  (Though summer does tend to be a _*very*_ busy time
for me.)

-Randall

[1] http://bb4.com/
[2] http://www.sawmill.net/
[3] http://code.google.com/p/logcop/
[4] http://www.crypt.gen.nz/logsurfer/
[5] http://logsurfer.sourceforge.net/
[6] http://www.techrepublic.com/article/default-installation-directories/1060690

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 04:28:37PM -0400, Doug Stewart wrote:
> Logsurfer?
> 
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:23 PM, JP Vossen <jp@jpsdomain.org> wrote:
> > ...a "log check"?
> >
> > I've talked about this before, there is a package in Debian & Ubuntu, and a
> > project site:
> > * logcheck - mails anomalies in the system logfiles to the administrator
> > * http://logcheck.org/
> >
> > The idea is simple at a high level and works really well, though there can
> > be implementation gotchas.
> >
> > You take your logs, or output, or whatever and:
> > 1) Remove stuff you recognize and don't care about
> > 2) Find stuff you *know* is bad, but then remove stuff that only *looks* bad
> > 3) Take the remainder
> >
> > So you end up with 2 buckets:
> > A) Stuff you know is bad
> > B) Stuff you don't recognize (so either it's bad or you tune it out)
> >
> > Then over time you tune your patterns (usually regular expressions) to
> > reduce "B."
> >
> > This turns out to be really useful for log monitoring, or handling the
> > output from long noisy processes (like compiles that don't set good exit
> > codes).
> >
> > To the best of my knowledge [1], Marcus J. Ranum and Fred Avolio wrote the
> > oldest implementation in this context with the 'frequentcheck.sh' script for
> > TIS Gauntlet, circa early 1990's.  But it seems like it should be a basic
> > sort of "Computer Science" thing, related to filtering or something.  So,
> > can anyone think of a better name and/or older example for this process or
> > concept?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > JP
> > ____________________
> > Footnote:
> > [1] http://logcheck.org/docs/README-psionic
> > ----------------------------|:::======|-------------------------------
> > JP Vossen, CISSP            |:::======|      http://bashcookbook.com/
> > My Account, My Opinions     |=========|      http://www.jpsdomain.org/
> > ----------------------------|=========|-------------------------------
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> > software required to protect Windows from its own poorly designed and
> > implemented self, while the overhead incidentally flattens Moore's Law.
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> 
> -- 
> -Doug
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