Doug Stewart on 19 Nov 2015 15:52:49 -0800

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Re: [PLUG] Old computers and stuff

Speaking of Computer Chronicles, have y'all watched yet?

Doug Stewart

On Nov 19, 2015, at 6:36 PM, wrote:

Sorry this is a late reply JP! :) The Computer Festival I mentioned is the Vintage Computer Festival East XI. It's sponsored by the Vintage Computer Federation (formerly known as the Mid Atlantic Retro Computing Hobbyists) a 501(c)3 charity.  The dates are April 15th - 17th 2016.  The confirmed guest speaker for Sat 16th is Stewart Cheifet (a Philly native!) famous for The Computer Chronicles and other TV shows.  When I get a link for the show I'll post it.  Those of you yearning to run  Pascal on a PDP-11 will probably be able to do so at the show.  Last years show was the 50th anniversary of the PDP-8.  Nine functioning PDP-8s were on display!

On 11/19/15, Rachel Rawlings<> wrote:

I had three Pascals growing up:  UCSD on the Franklin Ace in high school, tgen whatever versions were on the PDP-11 and HP/UX. (Also did all my life's thirtyish lines of Fortran on the PDP under RSTS/E.)

I had a fat greenbar binder full of my pascal problems from Temple that I actually moved to California with me. :}

On Nov 19, 2015 2:00 PM, "Keith C. Perry" <> wrote:
LOL, must be!!!

Turbo Pascal for the win!  I agree 100% there.  Especially in the context of portability since many times back then I was implementing "glue code" or "secret sauce" solutions in Pascal to get data manipulations done.  I don't ever remember if I used Pascal elsewhere.  C and Fortran I think I used on 8086 (with and without and an 8087 eek!), Unix and mainframe in the late '80s and early '90's.

Looks like you had the T/S 1000... that was actually my first personal computer.  BTW, from your post, I agree, it was very rudimentary and the BASIC on it was... yea, basic.  My enthrallment with computers really came from pushing that little computer to the limit.  Upgrading to the T/S 2000 was a no brainer.

The T/S 2000 could give the C-64 (one of my brothers had that) and the TI-994A (the other brother had that one) a run for the money.  I first hand coded assembly on there- took me 2 years of self-study for it to finally make sense but it was worth it since that knowledge was helpful in doing things on the C-64.

One of the reasons why I like ARM or MIPS SBCs and Arduino's is because I really enjoy the lower level programming that you can easily do with those devices.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Litt" <>
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 12:20:07 PM
Subject: Re: [PLUG] Old computers and stuff

On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 16:25:10 -0500 (EST)
"Keith C. Perry" <> wrote:

> That was definitely a nice trip down memory lane.  I didn't know that
> many people also had a Unix or VMS background before Linux.

You and I must be brothers separated at birth. My first IT job was as a
medical management software programmer on PDP11 with TSX running atop
RT/11 to give RT/11 multiuser/multitasking capabilities. We used
Whitesmith Pascal.

> I had mentioned my Timex Sinclair 2000 during the conversation.

My second computer was a Timex Sinclair, maybe a 2000. It's mentioned
in this article:

> Since most people were not familiar with, I figured I would show
> pictures from a post I did on G+ awhile back.
> Oh and JP, that bubble sort brought a tear to my eye.  Also circa '90
> - '91 when I was tutoring engineering and comp. sci majors in
> Pascal.

Turbo Pascal 3 was almost perfect. Every bit as fast as C. Built in
right-sized development environment. Able to fit on and work off a
floppy in your shirt pocket, with a license allowing you to do that (as
long as you kept it on the floppy). When your customer couldn't get his
chosen language to do task X, you just finessed it in Turbo Pascal.
Having that Turbo Pascal 3 floppy in your pocket made you a traveling
solution. Years after later Turbo Pascal versions were install-only, I
still carried my Turbo Pascal 3 floppy.


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