Fred Stluka on 2 Oct 2018 14:19:29 -0700


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Re: [PLUG] Thunderbird questions 

Alan,

BTW, even if you use all ASCII (no Unicode) in your HTML, you can
still use the HTML-specific way to specify Unicode chars (HTML
"entities").  See:
- http://google.com/search?q=entering+unicode+chars+in+HTML

--Fred
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On 10/2/18 5:09 PM, Fred Stluka wrote:

Alan,


Do I gather that you don't use the Linux TBird?


Right.  Mac laptops, where I live in the Terminal window doing
Mac OS X (BSD Unix).  And Linux servers.  No Windows, ever.
Do you use google?  A most satisfactory replacement for it is duckduckgo.com.  It's           raison d'etre is that it does not collect information on you.  I haven't used google, except 
          for my gmail account, in years.


Yes. I use Google.  And I own a lot of Google stock.
I hear good things about Duck Duck Go though.
What version of TB do you all use.  My command 'thunderbird --version' returns 52.9.1.  I 
          believe that this is pretty up-to-date.


52.9.1 on Mac.  Yes, says it is the latest available on the "release"
update channel.




Of course!  Use them as you like.  But I suggest always using
them via HTML entities, or via standard Unicode chars.
          Yes, but I gotta learn how to enter them using TB. Unicode is just a prescription,           which can be implemented in various ways.  I need to learn how TB does it.  Up to           now the examples I've given simply come from a file of examples I've put together,           which I have to call up from one of the terminal windows I have open. 

I wouldn't expect to find a TBird-specific way to enter Unicode chars.
I'd expect to find an OS-specific way.  Windows, Mac and Linux each
have a standard way to enter Unicode chars into any place where you
can type regular chars.  Into email programs, or into text editors, or
into fields on a Web form, or into a word processor, etc.  See:
- http://google.com/search?q=how+to+enter+unicode+chars+in+mac
- http://google.com/search?q=how+to+enter+unicode+chars+in+windows
- http://google.com/search?q=how+to+enter+unicode+chars+in+linux
TeX output is (always?) either a .ps or .pdf.  The output is Just *beautiful! * 

Ah...  Makes sense!



I create such letters in HTML and either send them the HTML which
anyone anywhere can read with any browser, or a link to the HTML
document stored at my Web site, or something.  Or I print the HTML
and mail them a paper copy.
        Now this I don't understand.  All html is in ASCII, no? composed of <this> and </that>s.  So         how can you get a professional letter out of it?  Please explain<g>. 

No, technically, HTML can be in ASCII or in Unicode.  But I always
use ASCII for mine.  But HTML is a formatting language like TeX,
so it can be used to create a formatted Web page, which can be a
resume, a contract, an invoice or any other do you want.  And can
be stored in a single file, so it can be easily attached to an email,
accessed locally by the recipient, printed, etc.  Here are some
samples of professional docs created in HTML:
- My resume:
   http://bristle.com/~fred/resume.htm
- A typical invoice to a client on my company's HTML letterhead:
   http://bristle.com/Temp/2016_07_HHL.htm

Make sense?

--Fred
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On 10/1/18 5:24 PM, Alan McConnell wrote:


On 09/30/2018 06:08 PM, Fred Stluka wrote:


Yes, seems to have gone to the whole list.  Did you make the
change I suggested with the Config Editor?  Or use the "Reply List"
button that Charlie and Brent suggested?  Other?  In any case, it
worked fine.

         It is Reply List.  Right next to the Reply button.








You'll have to find the Options/Preferences area of Linux TBird.
             Do I gather that you don't use the Linux TBird? You use a Mac? or a M$ Windoze machine?              (I have a dual-bootable machine, and log into my Windoze 10 about once a month, just              to verify something that a correspondent has told me about it.  I find it truly bizarre. although 
             Edge seems to work well enough)


If you've set any options in Linux TBird, it will be in that same
place.  Otherwise, Google it, I guess.
          Do you use google?  A most satisfactory replacement for it is   duckduckgo.com.  It's           raison d'etre is that it does not collect information on you.  I haven't used google, except 
          for my gmail account, in years.
          What version of TB do you all use.  My command 'thunderbird --version' returns 52.9.1.  I 
          believe that this is pretty up-to-date.



Of course!  Use them as you like.  But I suggest always using
them via HTML entities, or via standard Unicode chars.
          Yes, but I gotta learn how to enter them using TB. Unicode is just a prescription,           which can be implemented in various ways.  I need to learn how TB does it.  Up to           now the examples I've given simply come from a file of examples I've put together,           which I have to call up from one of the terminal windows I have open. 


Try to
avoid using special chars in Microsoft-specific ways, which is
what MS Word/Excel/PowerPoint encourage you to do.
           <LOL>  They can encourage me all they want.   I can't hear them!!  As above, my            contact with M$ is minimal to non-existent.  I've been using Linux exclusively since 
           1994( version .99,pl 12)
         What do you use when you want to write an 'official' letter to e.g. the IRS, or to          the official at some organization.  I have used TeX ever since it came out, and          my copy of 'The TeXbook' is falling apart.  (But I wander off-topic) 

Do you send them electronic copies of documents that they need
TeX to be able to read?  Or do you print it out and mail it to them?
         TeX output is (always?) either a .ps or .pdf.  The output is Just *beautiful! * 



I create such letters in HTML and either send them the HTML which
anyone anywhere can read with any browser, or a link to the HTML
document stored at my Web site, or something.  Or I print the HTML
and mail them a paper copy.
        Now this I don't understand.  All html is in ASCII, no? composed of <this> and </that>s.  So         how can you get a professional letter out of it?  Please explain<g>. 

Alan
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    He who hesitates is sometimes saved.  (both by James Thurber)
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