Re: [PLUG] The Big Hack: How China used a tiny chip to generate ridiculous replies

["Keith C. Perry" <kperry@daotechnologies.com>]

Federal government agencies require domestic manufacturing in many if not all cases but I don't think the requirement for technology is down to the chip level for builds.  It may even then be percentage based (i.e. how much of this is build by Americans) but I forget since that decision matrix is evolving.

The current situation aside, we have long gotten away from working with our hands in America.  Part of that is because the supply side of the economy doesn't want consumers fixing things and part of that is that, the STEM disciplines don't place enough value on it (certainly influenced by the above point).

In my view, far too much emphasis is placed on software compared too hardware or firmware.  The dirty little secret is that **some** companies see technology, especially closed source software solutions, as a way to replace highly skilled technical professionals with products.  This has been feeding the overall frenzy to put money into software  layers and not the full stack- which for me includes the physical.  The idea that you can cloud, virtualize or containerize everything so that you need to pay smart people is stupid and once all this hype passes, will put the appropriate companies at deserved disadvantage or out of business.

We did this to ourselves long ago.



On October 5, 2018 7:48:20 AM EDT, "Rev. LeRoy D. Cressy" <rev.cressy@protonmail.com> wrote:
>Hi Jeff,
>
>You and I along with many others on the plug list have been around for
>quite a while to remember companies like Heathkit and others where you
>would get a package of parts and you would build your own stereo or TV.
>Many kiddies don't even know what a cathode, plate, or a grid is or
>what a vacuum tube even is.
>
>Why do you think that Trump is attempting to bring back manufacturing
>to the USA?  Most of the electronic components are used by various
>agencies of the government.  How many people do you know can configure
>and compile their own kernel?  If you build a firewall, you do not
>really want modules, but many are lazy and don't put in the effort to
>do their own compiles.
>
>Many Linux distributions seem to have become like M$ where ease of use
>rather than security is paramount.  The use of cheap foreign markets to
>manufacture the chips and integral parts of computers and other end
>user items like our cars.  I have always thought that having a computer
>control your car could be extremely dangerous.
>
>Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
>
>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>On Friday, October 5, 2018 12:09 AM, jeff <jeffv@op.net> wrote:
>
>> who do they think they are - the NSA? Intolerable. Did the equipment
>> stop at a warehouse on the way to its destinations?
>>
>> I hate to say I told you so.. no, wait, I'm perfectly alright with
>it.
>> If we still used tubes, this wouldn't be a problem. We'd manufacture
>> them here, along with the few other components we'd need. No Chinese
>> inserts - even if they tried, it's hard to get a cathode to phone
>home.
>> And each piece of equipment would sound wonderful, even if it wasn't
>> built for audio. Clock speeds might be a little slower...
>>
>> Philadelphia Linux Users Group -- http://www.phillylinux.org
>> Announcements -
>http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce
>> General Discussion --
>http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
>
>
>___________________________________________________________________________
>Philadelphia Linux Users Group         --       
>http://www.phillylinux.org
>Announcements -
>http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce
>General Discussion  --  
>http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
___________________________________________________________________________
Philadelphia Linux Users Group         --        http://www.phillylinux.org
Announcements - http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce
General Discussion  --   http://lists.phillylinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug