Nicholas Vettese on Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:27:53 -0500


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Re: [PLUG] South Jersey Linux User's Group alive and well.





From: Gerald Neale <jesran@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org
To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org
Subject: Re: [PLUG] South Jersey Linux User's Group alive and well.
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:59:16 -0800 (PST)

> I would
> rather stop this debate on
> PLUG's list, since it has nothing to do with their
> group.
Yes. I agree. I think there are still some things that
need to be said so if there is a proper place for it
then this is probably it.

I remember in dealing with you that you really wanted
to be the founder and organizer of a LUG in South
Jersey. You were not able to do it. I remember that at
that same time I wanted to be a member of a LUG in
South Jersey. You were not able to provide an active
group for me.

I provided exactly what you needed to start the group. I had the name and I had memebers. You only had yourself and a neighbor. Oh, and I forgot, you had the meeting place. So that I guess made you the leader. I didn't want to be a leader of any group, and you certainly weren't fitting the bill. You may think you are the leader, but dictator would be more fitting. You can actually see it coming out in these discussions. My group doesn't have a leader per se. We are a group of one that makes decisions with each other.

Therefore I started a LUG myself. You wanted to help
out so you gave us your name and refered some people
to us. Thank you very much. But I suspected then and
know now that you were not simply being generous.

You suspected nothing. You confided in me on making money off of this group. I wasn't sticking around much longer. You said your wife thought you were playing around too long with this and wanted to see you make money with it, and it wasn't a job in Linux


Turns out those people were all under the notion that
this was your group. They quickly realized that it was
not when you failed to show up for your own discussion
and never came back to a meeting.

Well for the most of them, I was their first contact. I was setting everything up, and you emailed me and said you had a place to meet. You seemed very excited to have me, and the people I brought. Yes, I had one failed attempt prior to working with you, but sometimes you must fail before you succeed. At the time when I left, I was in the middle of starting a new job, and a lot was going on. I had to work late hours, and a lot of them. Forgive me if I put my family above you.



I am not sore about that, you served yourself, but I think you stepped out of line when trying to grab credit for being a co-founder of our group on the PLUG list. You asked for a public response with that comment so I gave it to you.

Co-Founder. I founded SLUG a year before I met you. It is not like you had the idea before anyone else. I have been working extremely hard for the new group. I have been getting sponsorships, meeting room (just one, we always know which room we are meeting in),and we are going to have guest speakers in a bit. We have a great group of well rounded individuals that corners many areas of Linux.

You were not founder or co-founder of any LUG that has
taken root. So please don't portend it as so. It takes
more than ambition to run a LUG.

Jerry

I am glad you think you are always right. And that is why your group has refused to grow since I left. Your group started with 4 or 5 members, and has grown to 15 since the summer. The group I am with now started with 8, and is about to reach 20. I founded your group, and you are upset because I won't release the name for you to contact companies to get freebies. I won't release the name to you, because our group has been working with companies, and I have spoken to many vendors on the phone getting a releationship with them. I apologize to this group for taking up their time, but I am more apologetic because they had to see what kind of power hungry person you are.

To the people of PLUG, I am sorry for this. http://slug.happyduck.org was around way before the www.p3.net group was around. SLUG has always been a project of mine, and now I am getting to share it with the community. It has been around for nearly 3 years, and we are getting stronger everyday.

Nicholas Vettese
http://slug.happyduck.org/
nick@happyduck.org

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