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Re: Elegant snippet from an overall excellent piece...
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I agree with you 1000%! I fully understood your point, and agree, sorry if I
did not make it clear. Your parallel to our society as a whole is also directly
on point (IMHO) and was elegantly stated.
"Kenny, Vale T" wrote:
> While you are correct, for business, it does come down to
> the almighty $, I think you are missing the perspective. Put in simpler
> terms, do you want to teach someone how to use a shovel, or train them to
> operate a backhoe? Whilst the shovel user will be useless in a backhoe, the
> backhoe operator will be able to jump out of the backhoe and pick up a
> shovel anytime.
> I'd much rather have a staff of users that feel comfortable
> moving about in a powerful environment, knowing they can perform some level
> of basic analysis of a computer problem before turning to a support person.
> Equally, these folks will more easily move down to simpler platforms, with
> the confidence which arises from familiarity with a more powerful tool.
> That is to say, UNIX users can use NT with relative ease, whereas NT users
> are virtually helpless on a UNIX system.
> It all depends on your perspective. Are you in for
> immediate gratification, with limited return, or will you hold out for an
> investment which will benefit you for the long term.
> This concept is integral to the current difficulties we are
> experiencing in American society. We have a society built on immediate
> gratification, which will lead to speedy returns, but the long term growth
> is questionable. We currently have the ability to perform almost any
> technological feat we choose, but because of a desire to make money !NOW!,
> we cripple our ability to develop higher, long term yields in the future.
> Sorry, off on a tangent. I see many parallels in the battle
> between UNIX and NT and the rest of life. Do you want the hot babe on your
> arm now because she looks good now, or are you seeking someone who can
> recite the first fourteen quatrains of "The Rubiyat of Omar Khayyam" and
> will continue to blow your mind for years to come? A question of
> perspective.
> Again, sorry for the lark.
> Do you understand my point though? It is something that
> UNIX has always known, IBM learned, and Micro$lop is about to learn.
>
> Vale Theodore Kenny KSC
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Suchowierski
> [SMTP:rsuchowi@nimbus.temple.edu]
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 1998 1:34 PM
> To: Vale Kenny
> Subject: Re: Elegant snippet from an
> overall excellent piece...
>
> this is well put. Our problem is however that most
> organizations do not wish
> to
> actually PAY for that mastery. Winblows allows
> organizations to hire
> personnel
> who have less knowledge of systems (all those idiot
> boxes) and therefore
> allows them to pay less money to those people. In
> the end, it all comes
> down to the all mighty dollar. Until the Unix
> systems reach a point where
> we can put a person infront of the box and tell them
> that they are on their
> own, realizing the freedom is just a pipe dream. (in
> my opinion).
>
> Bob Ski
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Stupid computer? No silly Stupid USER!
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Vale Kenny wrote:
>
> > Mastery of UNIX, like mastery of language, offers
> real freedom. The
> > price of freedom is always dear, but there's no
> substitute. Personally,
> > I'd rather pay for my freedom than live in a
> bitmapped, pop-up-happy
> > dungeon like NT. I'm hoping that as IT folks
> become more seasoned and
> > less impressed by superficial convenience at the
> expense of real
> > freedom, they will yearn for the kind of freedom
> and responsibility UNIX
> > allows. When they do, UNIX will be there to fill
> the need.
> >
> > TWDT is at:
> >
> http://www.performancecomputing.com/features/9809of1.shtml
> >
> > Peace Folks,
> > Vale
> >
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