Re: [PLUG] COBOL again

["Keith C. Perry" <kperry@daotechnologies.com>]

Well more specifically pets *versus* cattle...

Thanks for the reference too.  I first heard it from you, so I've been giving you the credit...

...then I plug the bash book...

                                      "Wait, what's bash?"

              "It's a Linux shell"

                                       "OH, yea, I've heard of Linux"

         "Great!  If you want
          to learn more about
          working with Linux,
          the Bash Cookbook is
          a good reference to
          have"



(see, there's a method  :D )

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----- Original Message -----
From: "JP Vossen" <jp@jpsdomain.org>
To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 1:04:20 PM
Subject: Re: [PLUG] COBOL again

"Cattle, not pets" wasn't me, I just like it.
https://devops.stackexchange.com/questions/653/what-is-the-definition-of-cattle-not-pets

On 09/26/2018 12:55 PM, Keith C. Perry wrote:
> Not so random JP...  I brought up Walt's point about 2 million **new** lines of COBOL code a year at a conference I gave a talk at last week.
> 
> There were some former COBOL folks in the room that smiled.
> 
> I also used your "pets and cattle" analogy elsewhere in cloud conversations- that one was very well received :D
> 
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> Keith C. Perry, MS E.E.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JP Vossen" <jp@jpsdomain.org>
> To: "Philadelphia Linux User's Group Discussion List" <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 5:09:52 PM
> Subject: [PLUG] COBOL again
> 
> We've talked about this a few times, especially after one of Walt's
> COBOL talks:
> https://developers.slashdot.org/story/18/09/25/1759250/do-you-know-cobol-if-so-there-might-be-a-job-for-you
> 
> I just started wondering about this though, just because the language is
> Cobol doesn't mean modern techniques can't be used.  Can you do this
> remote?  Is the code in Git?  Can there be unit tests, CI, and all of
> that good stuff?  COBOL linters?
> 
> Wow:
> * https://github.com/tollofsen/linter-cobc
> * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tools_for_static_code_analysis
> 
> What Cobol is even used?  The Mint repos have "Open COBOL" but that
> "translates COBOL into C and compiles the translated code using GCC"
> which feels like cheating.  Presumably production is IBM COBOL or
> related, so I wonder how close the two are.  I'm gonna go out on a limb
> and say that a Linux test/dev system would be a tad cheaper than a
> Z-series...
> 
> Huh, it doesn't seem like there are a lot of options:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compilers#COBOL_compilers
> 
> There are lots of books on Amazon (including, seriously, _COBOL for
> Dummies_) but many seem out of print or insanely expensive (or both).
> 
> Has anyone done this or checked the job boards for COBOL?
Later,
JP
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