Re: Next meeting July 12th 2020

[tom r lopes <tomrlopes@gmail.com>]

Last meeting I was a bit distracted  Trying to install Arch on a X230 Thinkpad.  

For Arch you need to consult the official wiki because things are always changing 

so a guide that you find on the web very likely is out of date.  

For example a while ago Arch decided to separate the kernel from the usual 

pacstrap packages.  So if you followed a step by step guide you'ld have no 

kernel.  The wiki explains that a kernel is not needed if you are installing in a container.  

Anyways I was following the wiki and now it suggests mounting the ESP on /efi.  

Which messed me up as I planned to boot efistub.  Efistub the uefi firmware loads up 

the kernel directly so there is no extra bootloader.  So having the esp on /efi won't get the 

kernel which is written to /boot

That was easy enough.  Reboot the ARch iso and edit the fstab then arch-chroot and 

recreate kernel and initramfs.  

Second problem was that I hadn't actually finished the install steps in the wiki.  So I go 

to boot up and I realize that I hadn't set a root password.  So i'm booted up but can't 

do anything!  Boot the Arch iso and fix that.  

Now I have gnome installed and gdm.  I have to make it so that gdm starts.  Some 

systemd commands and also have networkmanager start.  

Just a little more to do.  

Thomas

On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 10:30 PM goossbears <acohen36@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 5:16:07 PM UTC-7, trl wrote:

Virtual meeting at meet.jit.si/berkeleylug from 11 am on.

Thomas

One of the notable drawbacks I keenly felt in today's "Virtual meeting at meet.jit.si/berkeleylug from 11 am on" was the lack of the ability to have sub-conversations during the meetup.

Sub-conversations, as in being able to talk with others on-the-side as one can during live meetups when attendants are not necessarily beholden to directly participate under the topic(s) pursued by the elected/unelected meetup moderator during the times of active discussion.

Probably that's due to the very nature of Jitsi as well as Zoom, where typically only one or two persons at a time can "lead" or keep the focus upon the active discussion topic at hand.

Sure, one can use the Raise the Hand Jitsi feature to speak up, but speaking for myself, am unlikely to do so to interrupt what I perceived to be irrelevant discussion on non-Linux-related....

- legal issues surrounding why a currently unemployed school teacher got themself fired for their behavior

- monologue on the background history of Hong Kong and colonial/post-colonial China

- someone's kid settling in Stockholm and others' visits to the same

Can any of you think of other stategies to circumvent this drawback?

Three strategies that immediately come to mind are ....

1. The Jitsi forum organizer taking a more active role in suggesting that distracting, irrelevant discussions such as the above be instead discussed offline.

2. Attending the online meetup, then leaving when the discussion becomes effectively sidetracked, and then re-attending much later on when the "sidetrackers"

have said most of what they're going to say.

3. Simply not participating at all in that particular online meetup, i.e., in the next BerkeleyLUG virtual meeting in <2wks time.

-Aaron

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