Aaron Blohowiak on 26 Jul 2006 15:40:54 -0000

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Re: [PhillyOnRails] Rails Diatribe

He holds the flakinees of fastCGI against rails, which is a stupid thing to do.  He also thinks that the people most benifiting from rails are the publishers. and here i thought it was the teams of small people doing big things...

and if writing your app in rails takes as long as it would in java, i would argue that you are either a java savant or don't know && from AND.

java programmers can be like neo-conservatives: they have their opinion and all stick together, but they don't really seem open to even admitting the profound insights that other mentalities have to offer.

that being said, he does raise some valid points: rails isn't ready for use in the old 'enterprise' way.  good! why dilute a tool that wasn't meant for that kind of application? 

it is like going from BASIC to c++ and lamenting the lack of  being able to use line numbers for program flow control.

Aaron Blohowiak

On Jul 26, 2006, at 11:03 AM, dblack@wobblini.net wrote:

Hi --

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Andrew Langman wrote:

So far I'm liking Rails, but our applications are small, and load is not an
issue. What do the more experienced Rails developers on the group think of this
(or similar, better-written criticisms):

Better-written would be a start :-)  I gather something someone has
said is bugging this guy.  I'm not sure who it was, or what they said.
He refers rather vaguely to "the Rails people" and "so I am advised"
and "one of the leading Ruby advocates".

My experience is that things like speed, resource usage, Unicode, and
all the rest of it are talked about and analyzed and worked on
constantly by people in the Ruby and Rails world(s).  I'm not sure
where the idea comes from that we're all smug and complacent, and that
seems to be the message he's most eager to put across.

He evidently doesn't like Rails, so I think the correct solution for
him would be not to use it.


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