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Since this is a reply from Jon Orwent, I will post all the info I have, including emails from Jon Orwent himself. This came through my company and I would rather not name it. I will blot out identifying info. I would also like to say in response, that I know nothing about this Jon, I am just wondering what you guys know. I got this "through the pipeline" and really know nothing about it. I just would hate to see TPJ go under because I find it to be a very useful publication. I also just subscribed for another year. :./
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> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 13:09:24 -0800
> From: "xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxx" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: "xxxxxxxxxx" <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> CC: "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> FYI-
>
> I confirmed that EarthWeb has been bought by Internet.com. They will be
> laying off the staff of The Perl Journal & it doesn't look as though
> they
> will continue publishing TPJ (according to one of their employees). So
> the
> last advertisement we put together wont run. :(
>
> xx-
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon Orwant" <orwant@oreilly.com>
> To: "Derek J. Balling" <dballing@yahoo-inc.com>; <sfpug@sf.pm.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 11:55 AM
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [sf-perl] The Perl Journal -- gone?
>
> >
> > What the hell? This is news to me, having returned the prepress copy
> > of TPJ #20 to the printer last night. And having just told the authors
> > of TPJ #20 articles to send in their invoices.
> >
> > I'm more than slightly miffed that I'm finding out about what's going
> > on in dribs and drabs (all, strangely, gated through you, Derek :-)
> > instead of from EarthWeb.
> >
> > Am I free to start it up again? I have no idea. They may have sold
> > TPJ (the content + my editing contract) to internet.com, so I'm
> > probably not free to start it up, ah, "under old management". But
> > even if they have done that, I don't understand why they'd say that it
> > had ceased publication. They'd instead say that simply that there was
> > a new owner.
> >
> > -Jon
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 11:46:23AM -0800, Derek J. Balling wrote:
> > > Does this mean you're free to start it up again, sans Earthweb?
> > >
> > > D
> > >
> > > >X-Authentication-Warning: cfcl.com: majordom set sender to
> > > >owner-sfpug@sf.pm.org using -f
> > > >From: "Schweizer, David BGI SF" <David.Schweizer@barclaysglobal.com>
> > > >To: "'sfpug@sf.pm.org'" <sfpug@sf.pm.org>
> > > >Subject: [sf-perl] The Perl Journal -- gone?
> > > >Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 11:35:14 -0800
> > > >Sender: owner-sfpug@sf.pm.org
> > > >Reply-To: sfpug@sf.pm.org
> > > >Status:
> > > >
> > > >When trying to renew a subscription to The Perl Journal, we were told
> that
> > > >it has ceased publication
> > > >with issue #19. I can't find any announcement of this anywhere, but
> there
> > > >is some news about
> > > >EarthWeb restructuring.
> > > >
> > > >Anybody know anything?
> > > >
> > > >--David
> > > >
> > > >==== Want to unsubscribe from this list?
> > > >==== Send mail with body "unsubscribe" to sfpug-request@sf.pm.org
> > > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------
> > > Derek J. Balling 408-530-5062
> > > Technical Yahoo Do You Yahoo!?
> >
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> >
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On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 04:20:47PM -0500, mjd-perl-pm@plover.com wrote:
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> ------- Forwarded Message
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> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 15:58:10 -0500
> From: Jon Orwant <orwant@oreilly.com>
> To: Mark-Jason Dominus <mjd@plover.com>
> Subject: Re: TPJ to close?
> Message-ID: <20010102155810.U11750@oreilly.com>
> References: <20010102203904.27399.qmail@plover.com>
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> In-Reply-To: <20010102203904.27399.qmail@plover.com>; from mjd@plover.com on Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 03:39:04PM -0500
>
>
> EarthWeb hasn't been bought by Internet.com; they simply sold
> off a lot of their "content properties" to it. They still own
> TPJ, but have made it clear that they wish this weren't the case.
>
> According to EarthWeb, they shouldn't be turning down advertisers
> so much as saying "We're not going to publish it any more, but
> someone else might." I'd love to know which issue Vex thinks
> his ad won't run in, because TPJ #20 is in press. See below.
>
> Dec 26
> EarthWeb lays off 100 people, announces sale of content to internet.com.
> I read about the EarthWeb/internet.com deal online.
> I send mail to EarthWeb saying "Whassup with TPJ?" No reply.
> I send mail to Internet.com asking "Do you own TPJ now?" They say "Yes."
> Dec 27
> I send mail to the TPJ project manager at EarthWeb asking whassup.
> He replies that he was laid off.
> I send film blues to the printer: TPJ #20 is ready to print.
> EarthWeb tells the printer not to print until they say OK.
> I file for arbitration against EarthWeb, claiming willful neglect of TPJ.
> Dec 28
> EarthWeb says "We own TPJ, not internet.com." I scratch my head.
> I send mail to Internet.com asking "You sure you own TPJ?" They say "No."
> I explain to EarthWeb that even if they're shutting down the magazine,
> it's cheaper to print TPJ #20 than to pay subscribers back.
> Dec 29
> Printer sales guy, eager to print, finds a potential buyer for TPJ:
> Laurin Publishing, which from my perusal of the web site publishes
> only photonics periodicals. This makes no sense to me.
> Dec 30
> nothing
> Dec 31
> nothing
> Jan 1
> nothing
> Jan 2
> nothing so far
>
> - -Jon
>
>
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