Michelle Weber on Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:22:03 -0400 (EDT)


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RE: [Plug] Voicenet telnet access


Hey, I happen to work for Voicenet, and as sort of a side thing I made a
linux support page for connecting, very UNofficial of course. But if
anyone would like to take a look at it, and tell me what I did wrong or had any
additions, suggestions, etc, the address is
http://www.voicenet.com/~mweber/linux
I don't think Voicenet would ever support linux over the phone, but I have
pointed alot of people to my page, and I could possibly get it put on the
official support pages. (big Maybe here, though customers keep asking for
it)

Thanks

--
Michelle Weber
umweber@mcs.drexel.edu

On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Andrew P. Ban wrote:

> Kevin,
> Let me clarify the 10 hour limit is on my new ISP - EPIX not on Voicenet.
>
> I did not realize that new Voicenet customers do not get shell accounts - I
> though the shell account $HOME was where customers put their www home pages.
> EPIX gave me a shell account - I just cannot get to it from work - being
> able to telnet to Voicenet in is quite handy that is why I still route all
> my e-mail through that account.
>
> Under EPIX they restrict USNET usage also.  They limit you to 1500 messages
> per day that will get me through about half of the news groups I subscribe -
> ok so I don't read each message but I like to search them for info - I keep
> the messages for about 120 days locally.  Personal preference.
>
> I'll just keep bugging Voicenet till I get a local POP and then I'll cancel
> EPIX.
> Drew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	plug-admin@lists.nothinbut.net [mailto:plug-admin@lists.nothinbut.net]
> On Behalf Of Kevin Way
> Sent:	Sunday, June 06, 1999 17:39
> To:	'plug@lists.nothinbut.net'
> Subject:	RE: [Plug] Voicenet telnet access
>
> Andrew
>
> I was going to list this as a benefit, but voicenet does not offer shell
> accounts anymore.  Long-time customers such as you and I have handy shell
> accounts on unix01.voicenet.com, but new customers do not get this benefit.
>  I wasn't actually aware of the 10 hour connect limit, that's a major con
> for some people.
>
> Kevin Way
> Systems Administrator
> http://www.research-inc.com/
> (215)540-0700 Fax (215)540-0770
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Andrew P. Ban [SMTP:aban@voicenet.com]
> Sent:	Sunday, June 06, 1999 5:31 PM
> To:	plug@lists.nothinbut.net
> Subject:	RE: [Plug] still the newbie -- local ISPs
>
> <lurk off>
> <rant on>
>
> I too have been a Voicenet customer for years (6).  You might wish to point
> out that they have another advantage of some ISPs  - I can telnet in to my
> shell account from anywhere.  Since moving to the Poconos I had to open up
> an account with another ISP for local dial-in access and they will not let
> me telnet into my shell account accept from within their network  - heck
> the
> girl on the phone did not know what a shell account was!!  They also list
> linux as being a supported OS on their web page here again the girl had no
> clue as to what I was talking about.  So to make a long story short had to
> ask the correct windows questions to get the info needed for my linux box.
> If Voicenet gets some local dial-in up here in the boonies I'll drop this
> Epix account like a hot potato.  Besides there is a 10 hour connect limit
> so
> I can't do the extended ISO image D/Ls I used to do under Voicenet. Well
> I'll just keep the two ISP's and make the best of it.
>
> Drew
>
> <rant off>
> <rant on>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	plug-admin@lists.nothinbut.net
> [mailto:plug-admin@lists.nothinbut.net]
> On Behalf Of Kevin Way
> Sent:	Sunday, June 06, 1999 17:09
> To:	'plug@lists.nothinbut.net'
> Subject:	RE: [Plug] still the newbie -- local ISPs
>
> I've been a voicenet customer for forever now (8 years or so) and they're
> great.
>
> good things about voicenet:
> reliable connectivity
> very very very few busy signals
> knowledgeable staff
>
> bad things about voicenet:
> if i DO have trouble, I have to pretend I use windows to get them to listen
> unlimited INTERACTIVE use, not a big deal really, you just can't stay
> connected for 18 days at a time or they get upset.
>
> Kevin Way
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Xtian Betz [SMTP:shux@subculture.org]
> Sent:	Sunday, June 06, 1999 12:25 PM
> To:	plug@lists.nothinbut.net
> Subject:	RE: [Plug] still the newbie
>
> At 09:23 AM 6/6/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >
> >I'd perfer a more people/linux friendly ISP in the Philly area, but I'm
> only
> >aware of the more popular ones.  Just about every time I try to connect to
> >Bell it take 3 to 4 and sometimes 5 attempts, before I get connected.
>  It's
> >usually once or twice in windows, so I don't know if it's me or them.
>
> Hmm. That shouldn't be hard to find. I myself use Comcat (www.comcat.com).
> I have been using them for three years. Setting up a connection in linux
> was no problem even though they are sun based. And my friend even said the
> tech support helped him setup his account in linux. The have plenty of
>
> But hey, I'm assuming you live in the 215 area code. Here's where you'll
> find a list of ISP's in that area code:
> http://thelist.internet.com/areacode/215.html
>
> But the best would be to ask some people what ISP's they are using. Word of
> mouth is often the best way to find about an ISP. I can personally account
> for about three people I have pointed towards comcat, and I will continue
> to recommend them.
>
> Hope I could help,
> Xtian Betz
>
> P.S. Hey did that area code thing go into effect yet?
>
>
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