Aarune J. Oracle on Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:00:36 -0500 (EST)


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Re: [Plug] what do people want out of plug talks


oddly I think about that ethernet access at netaxs, why not have a
meeting there and someone set up a webcam and do a live meeting?  I am
sure we can put it on the page with little or no problem...

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-Rune

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it destroys all.
		-Aarune J. Oracle

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On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, John Kirk wrote:

:Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:28:28 -0500
:From: John Kirk <dystan@pac.net>
:Reply-To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net
:To: plug@lists.nothinbut.net
:Subject: Re: [Plug] what do people want out of plug talks
:
:On Sun, Dec 19, 1999 at 12:55:33PM -0500, Darxus wrote:
:> I'm still trying to get a grasp of what it is that people want to get out
:> of these talks.  These are my guesses:  ... (newbies) ... (not_newbies) ...
:> So.. what do you guys think ?
:
:  I'd find it fun if, sometimes, we actually _do_ something rather than
:just talk.  One way would be for a speaker to demo something, perhaps
:getting interactive participation from the group.  Another would be for
:one or more sub-group(s) to do something together as a group project
:between meetings and then have a progress-reporting and decision-making
:meeting later to take responsibility for integrating and publishing the
:results.  The results could be distributed/published on the plug website
:or on a new domain the group could register for the project.  This would
:be a way for our group to contribute to the open source movement.
:
:  Possible projects I can think of, are:
:
:          1.  Documentation of some installation process that's
:      currently a pain due to insufficient information.  Perhaps
:      just edit existing documentation.  The printing problems
:      (that Sandy Basicus has had), discussed at several of our
:      meetings, could be documented, solved and the results published.
:
:          2.  We could demo and document the steps to take one of
:      the common, but arcane-for-beginners-under-*nix, tasks and
:      quickly build a GUI interface for it under Perl-Tk, TCL/Tk or
:      some such tool.
:
:          3.  Demo a quick-and-dirty ad-hoc procedure for doing an
:      edit using Emacs, that'd be real hard any other way.  For
:      those who don't use Emacs routinely due to the learning curve
:      might still find it convenient to pull it up once in a blue
:      moon to do something otherwise prohibitive.  e.g. a complicated
:      search-and-replace through a file, either because the search
:      string or the replacement string is hard to specify (control
:      characters or something) in most editors, or because the
:      modification is more complex than just replacing a string with
:      another.  Another example is re-arranging a file that is
:      formatted in columns.  Having a rote recipe for doing such a
:      task might break through the ice for picking up Emacs.
:
:          4.  Doing something live on the internet would be a kick
:      at a meeting.  Even if it were just to demo places to search
:      for answers to newbie tech questions.  Making it concrete by
:      online demo, with group input and collaboration would be very
:      eye-opening for many beginners.
:
:          5.  Demoing the competing desktop environments, live,
:      (as well as, perhaps, their installation procedures) would be
:      valuable for those who haven't seen many.
:
:  The facilities at IQ group seem ideal for PLUG to me, because the
:necessary hardware is handy for this kind of meetings.
:
:         regards,     -- John Kirk
:
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