William H. Magill on Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:54:20 -0400 (EDT) |
> A junior Sys Admin is somebody new to the career of System Administration. > It's like a secondary, semi-trainee position to the real Sys Admin. You > would handle routine day-to-day stuff - adding users, clearing print queues, > etc. The SA would handle the more technically complicated projects (setting > up a secure VPN or whatever), while (hopefully) teaching you stuff at the > same time. > > > I was wondering if there was such a position as a Jr. Sys Admin? I hear > > all the Unix guys tell me that I can make the switch, but this title > > seems to be an enigma. Has anyone even seen one or know of companies > > that hire them? > > Any company large enough to need more than 1 full time SA - say a company > with more than 100 users - might split up the positions into Senior & > Junior SAs. Or companies with more than one "real" server...(ie non-Intel based.) A company with more than 100 users has a "help desk" - which is a place that System Administrators avoid like the plague. The truth is, job titles are individual to specific companies and mean whatever they want them to mean at the time they use them. They ARE the product of Catburt types in HR. A "Junior" position does NOT normally mean a trainee position, although it definitely means you get paid less, sometimes much less. It normally means a position where the job responsibilities and, more importantly, authority, are severely restricted. However, job expectations are usually that you can do anything that the Sr. Sys Admin does but "under supervision," not on your own. (Which means that the Sr. Sys Admin gets fired for letting you have root privs and typing rm *.*, when he should have been over your shoulder to prevent it.) You will also likely discover that a Sr. Sys Admin is more management -- ie in constant meetings and contract negotiations, while a Jr. Sys Admin is expected to be writing code all the time. [Unix C programmers tend to be called System Administrators for some weird reason, while folks who write Java are called "Webmasters;" or "Scientist" if they write in FORTRAN; and those who program in COBOL are called "Legacy," etc... Anyone who knows anything about Oracle, Ingres, SAS, etc is called a DBA (Data Base Administrator). And if you know what a computer is and also know how to fix a broken air conditioner or use a mop, you become an "Operations Manager."] You will discover that very few, if any, high-tech companies have anything vaguely like a "career path," despite having job descriptions which imply one. The "career path" ability really only applies to VERY LARGE organizations where they really do have multiple job slots and a fairly high staff turnover. There are very, very few companies who can afford to hire "trainees" today. They are simply not "fat enough" to afford having an employee who cannot "carry their own weight" from day one. Every "body" has to be capable of "pulling their fair share of the load" and functioning at "maximum productivity." It's all a function of companies becoming "lean and mean" as a function of "down-sizing." It's sad, but there are a LOT of technical positions out there crying for bodies, but very, very few (and still decreasing) "trainee" positions. SAGE - The System Administrators Guild in Usenix, has been trying to define and promote "System Administration" as a profession - like programming - for a number of years now. There are (or were, uunet's backbone is down again, so I can't check right now) a series of "standard" job titles and descriptions on the SAGE web site. www.sage.usenix.org/sage or www.usenix.org -- and follow the links. -- www.tru64unix.compaq.com www.tru64.org comp.unix.tru64 T.T.F.N. William H. Magill Senior Systems Administrator Information Services and Computing (ISC) University of Pennsylvania Internet: magill@isc.upenn.edu magill@acm.org http://www.isc-net.upenn.edu/~magill/ ______________________________________________________________________ Philadelphia Linux Users Group - http://plug.nothinbut.net Announcements - http://lists.nothinbut.net/mail/listinfo/plug-announce General Discussion - http://lists.nothinbut.net/mail/listinfo/plug
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