Fred K Ollinger on Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:50:36 +0200


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Re: [PLUG] Text editors


> what we want it to do.  me personally i diplore vi for the single reason you
> need to key in a billion inane key combos just to edit a file...  and god

Do you hate the mouse b/c it takes too long to learn? You probably forgot
all the time you put into memorizing all the aspects of a gui. Or maybe it
was fun b/c it was visual and learning is by trial and error which
incidentally is not used anymore except in computing b/c people are too
lazy to read manuals. Maybe we should try to learn physics by trial and
error. Face it reading manuals may not be fun but it's faster than trial
and error. So time savings is not an issue.

> knows what state the editor is in when it randomly decides to add the text
> you typed 50x....  at any rate, we are no longer working on IBM 360s so we

vi NEVER does this. Which version were you using?
vi is much more stable and predictable in its behavior
than almost any other editor. It's rock solid, at least what I use (vim,
actually).

> can afford the finer things in life like maby text selection with a mouse?

gpm can be used in vim. I don't think the mouse is a finer thing in life
anyway, but it can be done in gvim.

> NEdit is pretty neat for this, light on the UI and very simple to use.  If

Which should make it ultimately less efficient.

> granted this is coming from the guy who grew up with MacOS/NeXT and Amiga
> Work Bench...  I cut my teeth on a DEC teletype terminal when I was 10 and
> hated consoles ever since, the only thing a terminal is good for is playing
> Rogue and Super Star Trek :)

Then don't use it.

I cut my teeth on the commodore 64, but I spent years writing fiction only
on macs. Once I spent time on the cli, I liked it. YMMV.

Fred


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