| gabriel rosenkoetter on Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:41:08 +0200 |
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On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 11:54:14PM -0400, ian reinhart geiser wrote:
> heh, something tells me that ones priorities in a text editor are quite
> different when the /usr partition is borked....
Well, mine aren't. Counting coding (perhaps a little expansive, but
you can surely see how it's more similar to this than to word
processing), at least 50% of my text editing is system
administration. I like vi. I'm much faster in vi than I ever was in
BBEdit on my macs, back before they all migrated to Unix-like
operating systems.
But I'm by no means suggesting that I'm the average. I hope it was
pretty clear that I was being facetious.
> in the real world we chose an editor for what it can do when we want it to do
> what we want it to do.
Right, and vi does precisely what I want in my real world. :^> (By
the way, when did this become about vi? I was talking about ed!)
(I should be careful to point out here that vim does too much for my
taste.)
> me personally i diplore vi for the single reason you
> need to key in a billion inane key combos just to edit a file... and god
> knows what state the editor is in when it randomly decides to add the text
> you typed 50x....
Fine, so vi's wrong for you, but let's not drop to generalizations
here. I would much rather type a couple keystrokes than have to move
my hand to the mouse.
And when that repetition happens, you typed a numeral before you
switched into editing mode without canceling the numeral (with
escape) first. Just fyi. :^>
> at any rate, we are no longer working on IBM 360s so we
> can afford the finer things in life like maby text selection with a mouse?
Sure, if you want to waste all that time reaching for it. I sure
don't. If I want to delete three words, I type /<first two
letters>3dw. Plenty speedy.
> granted this is coming from the guy who grew up with MacOS/NeXT and Amiga
> Work Bench...
Hey, man, I'm with you. The machine I type on now is the first
computer not in your list there that I've bought (it's an 800 Mhz
Athlon chip on an ATX motherboard in a generic full tower case; it
was far cheaper than the PowerMac G4 or Sun Ultra 10 I really
coveted). I guess, to be fair, I've never owned an Amiga, but the
other two bootable systems in this room (and there's enough spare
hardware that there could be maybe two more bootable systems, but
whatever) are a PowerMac 6500 (for NetBSD/macppc development) and a
NeXT turbocube (with both heads, thanks much) running NeXTStep 3
(right now; I plan to do NetBSD/next68k work on it, but maybe on a
separate drive). One of my best friends owns both versions of the
Apple Lisa (yes, both boot). I'm a big fan of the GUI. For graphical
stuff. Text editing is not, for me, a graphical thing.
(Oh, and word processing? Falls into programming for me. I use
LaTeX.)
Let me reiterate, though, that my last email was a *joke*. There's
only so long I can see this KDE/Gnome wanking go past before I have
to step out as the crotchety command line (where I use vi editing
keys, btw) guy I am. But that doesn't mean I think you should be the
same way.
:^>
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