Re: [PLUG] interesting experiment

[Tobias DiPasquale <anany@ece.villanova.edu>]

I just used Konqueror 2.2.2-1 to pull down three different versions of 
the page: one with no User-Agent identification, one as IE 5.5 on Win2k, 
and one as Opera on Windows. There is no difference in the HTML aside 
from the different ads I got with each iteration. diff rocks, fellas :) 
Anyway, what you are mostly likely seeing is a difference in JavaScript 
handling or some other internal feature in Konqueror that we may be 
unaware of. This page is littered with <script> tags everywhere, and I 
wouldn't be surprised if they were handled differently according to 
User-Agent status (otherwise, what would the point of that feature be??)

William Shank wrote:

>  but why would html targeted for an IE browser display better on konqueror.
> konq would be using the same rendering engine - therefore the html must be
> different. so either konq can display IE specific html better than w3c html
> OR the html being sent to an IE browser is better formed. 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arthur S. Alexion
> To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org
> Sent: 12/13/01 8:22 AM
> Subject: RE: [PLUG] interesting experiment
>
> no. It means front page is better at writing MSHTML than W3C.
>
> art
>
> William Shank wrote:
>
>
> > From: William Shank <wshank@mbcnet.com>
> > To: "'plug@lists.phillylinux.org '" <plug@lists.phillylinux.org>
> > Subject: RE: [PLUG] interesting experiment
> > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:09:11 -0500
> >
> > so that would mean that konqueror is better at displaying MS specific
> HTML
>
> > than w3c html? doubtful...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Arthur S. Alexion
> > To: plug@lists.phillylinux.org
> > Sent: 12/13/01 7:40 AM
> > Subject: Re: [PLUG] interesting experiment
> >
> > The site checks the browser and sends "more w3c like code" to non-IE
> > browsers.  It sends proprietary MSHTML to IE.
> >
> > Doubt its a conspiracy, and don't think the intent is that it be
> > crappier.  Just that MS Visual Studio, most likely used to create the
> > site, is weak at doing things w/o the proprietary tags.
> >
> > art
> >
> > William Shank wrote:
> >
> >
> > > using konqueror (i'm using kde2.2.2, but i don't know how much it
> > matters)
> >
> > > go to http://www.msnbc.com and observe the formatting. Now, under the
> > tools
> >
> > > menu, select Change Broswer Identification --> IE 5.5 on Windows
> 2000.
>
> > > reobserver the formatting. notice anything?
> > >
> > > what do you think is causing this discrepency? i'm certain the
> > rendering
> >
> > > engine isn't changed to be more compatible with IE based html. So
> does
>
> > this
> >
> > > mean that konqueror handles IE html better than other html? is the
> > site
> >
> > > sending crappy html to non-ie browsers on purpose? is this poor
> > quality
> >
> > > assurance? is there a conspiracy?
> > >
> > > -chris
> > ____________________________________.
> > artAlexion
> > -------------
> > arthur@alexion.com
> > www.alexion.com

--
Tobias DiPasquale
Solaris System Administrator
Electrical and Computer Engineering Dept.
Villanova University
mailto: anany@ece.vill.edu
tel: 610-519-5109


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