eric@lucii.org on Tue, 19 Feb 2002 21:39:36 -0500


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Re: [PLUG] Recommend a Laptop


I share your frustration.

Having just got a company laptop last summer it was relatively easy 
to get Linux installed but of course we could never get the money back
for the unused Win98 software.  

Then, when I wanted to diagnose a suspected network card problem 
the IBM support people told me that I'd have to un-install the Linux 
and the W2K and restore the Win98 before they could help me!

Why don't you search out a reasonable used laptop?
Since the software license expires when the hardware is sold (AFAIK)
the version of win-whatever still on the box is void anyway.
They are not as nice as the new ones but some decent deals can be 
found (ebay? Tiger direct?  others?).  You don't have to pay for a 
"warranty" or "support" with a used one so the price should reflect
that.  With a new one, if you install the Linux yourself then you're 
probably out of luck when it comes to getting support anyhow.

Good luck.

Eric



On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 02:19:19AM -0500, Paul wrote:
> I checked out emperorlinux.com and qlilinux.com (tuxtops). 
> The laptops are a little pricey for me.  I was looking to
> stay well under 15 Gs.  (I guess it's time to look at used
> stuff.)
> 
> Getting an unwanted copy of Windows XP wouldn't be that bad
> if it were on a CD-ROM which I could resell or give away. 
> >From what I've seen with Toshiba, the only way to install
> Windows is to use a recovery CD, which only works with a
> limited range of laptop models.  Another rip off.
> 
> Another thing the stinks is the added "feature" of a
> built-in winmodem.  Sounds good if you are running Windows
> for which those crappy winmodems are designed to work with. 
> Not so good for me.
> 
> I give up!
> 
> Why don't HP, Toshiba, Dell, and every other company just
> admit that they're virtual divisions of Micro$oft?  I wonder
> if they ever dream of being freed from slavery to master
> Bill?  All I know is that, as long as money keeps pouring
> in, they will never care about people like me.
> 
> I started that dreaded thread about how Microsoft influenced
> the hardware market.  Well, in a way, in my little world,
> Linux influences my buying decisions.  I will never buy a
> winmodem and I will avoid, if possible, any device that
> Linux can't utilize due to the companies lack of cooperation
> with  programmers.
> 
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#   Eric Allan Lucas 
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