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Re: [PLUG] PLUG Wireless/ Co-op?
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yes I can read TAC, but I didn't see anything.
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, gabriel rosenkoetter wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 04:09:04PM -0400, Noah silva wrote:
> > Most ISPs say that you can't transport your internet connection to any
> > other buildings. I suppose the 802.11b may not really be to another
> > building. I also have speakeasy, also because their terms of service
> > are... better than most other places. I don't know how happy they'd be if
> > they found out I was sharing the connection with my 500 closest
> > friends.
>
> Hrm. I was going to find a TAC document (which you could read, but I
> guess most of PLUG couldn't) that talked about wireless e'net, as
> I'm pretty sure I've read one, but support.speakeasy.net seems to be
> rather broken right now. Oh well.
>
> Point is, I'm pretty sure it's been made clear that they're not too
> concerned about this. (They've got public 802.11B hubs around
> Seattle that are on their network, to the best of my knowledge.)
>
> They, being sane, realize that they're selling the bandwidth, which
> is not a nebulous concept.
>
> > They think one IP = one computer, and you should have to pay per
> > computer.
>
> This is definitely not the case with Speakeasy. (Their "setup
> instructions" sort of presume that, but that's more because anybody
> who's doing NAT doesn't need help doing it. Or, to put it more
> appropriately, if you think it's your ISP's responsibility to help
> you NAT, you shouldn't be doing it.) I'd go dig up a link about
> that on the TAC, but it's no less broken now.
>
> > It really reminds me of the cable companies trying to charge you
> > per TV, until they got smacked down... didn't they learn the
> > first time?
>
> Of course they did. They learned they can do this stuff and make
> extra money till someone slaps them on the wrist. Back to
> corporation game tactics. Stop being such an idealist. :^>
>
> > The other thing I don't get is why they are worried in the first
> > place. I can EASILY take up all the bandwidth with one computer,
> > or I might have four connected, and barely use it at all.
>
> It's not your usage they're worried about, it's making more money
> off you any way they can.
>
> These folks are NOT just selling bandwidth. They're verging on the
> licensing discussion.
>
> --
> gabriel rosenkoetter
> gr@eclipsed.net
>
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