Bob Schwier on Wed, 25 Jun 2003 15:01:05 -0400


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Re: [PLUG] Apple announces G5 - IBM 970 based


I remember trying to rewrite CP301 64 bit programming for an 8 bit
machine.
bs


On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, William H. Magill wrote:

> Yesterday's announcement by Apple of G5 PowerPC systems based on the 
> IBM 970 PowerPC gives anybody interested in Linux a new 64-bit, 
> seriously high-performance, platform to work with. (www.apple.com/g5/)
> 
> On another list a couple of us have been discussing the implications...
> 
> The 970 runs both 32 and 64 bit code.
> 
> IBM has large chip runs to meet its own needs, but the chip runs to 
> fill Apple's needs is at least an order of magnitude larger. That means 
> cheap chips...! [All being built in a brand new IBM Fab.]
> 
> Apple is pricing the Dual 2 ghz CPU with a 1 ghz system bus at $2999!
> 
> There is a sub 20w version of the 970 that runs at 1.2 ghz ... can you 
> say Laptop?
> 
> "IBM's entry into the commodity Power chip space will only bring down 
> the prices as well.  It seems IBM's strategy is to sell the commodity 
> version for Linux solutions (as well as to Apple)."
> 
> Couple this with the fact that IBM DOES have decent compiler 
> technology, significant experience with emulation from the 68K to 
> PowerPC migration, and, unlike Digital, Compaq or HP, DOES understand 
> Marketing -- Itanium with Alpha inside is likely to prove too little 
> too late. (Tape-out was scheduled for late 2004, early 2005.)
> 
> This announcement is the "first shoe" that many of us who watch the 
> hardware side of things have been waiting for since Compaq killed 
> Alpha. It basically marks the beginning of the end for SPARC and for 
> the entry of folks like Dell into the mid-range server market.
> 
> And if we suddenly discover that we also are once again seeing REAL IBM 
> clones appear again, it could also hammer Hammer.
> 
> Hardware has just gotten interesting again.
> 
> 
> T.T.F.N.
> William H. Magill
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