Tobias DiPasquale on 3 Apr 2004 22:34:02 -0000


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Re: [PLUG] Re: Well, its official -- Sun is serious about being anti Linux and Open Source


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On Saturday 03 April 2004 01:38 pm, gabriel rosenkoetter wrote:
| What that says to me is that Microsoft admitted they were wrong on
| the antitrust issue (because they didn't expect they could win it in
| a US court, considering what just happened in Europe), admitted they
| were wrong on the patent issues (I don't know the details of the
| patent claims between Sun and Microsoft, but I expect all of them
| were the kind of frivoulous patents that software companies make
| precisely to have legal arsenal in disputes like this), and admitted
| that they were ALREADY USING Sun-owned software that they should
| have to pay a licensing fee to use, so they did.

You have a lot to learn about the U.S. legal system if you equate "settled" 
with "admitted they were wrong".

| Do try to show a little civility in public, please. Personal insults
| may be sent to me privately.

That wasn't an insult, it was an imperative. Don't forget our last thread on 
this topic.

And what favors has Sun done you recently? What favors have they done the 
FLOSS community at large? I think the reason people (myself included) get 
upset about Sun is that seem to have a really bad attitude towards FLOSS in 
some ways and then try to make up for it in others, yielding a haphazard 
position in our minds. 

What is so great about Sun? They refuse to open their source (Java), but don't 
have a problem using ours in their products (GNOME, Mozilla, Evo). They still 
can't see the value of running Linux on high-end servers and publicly slam it 
for that purpose when its brought up. If you think about it, you'll realize 
their hypocrisy and see a little bit of why I was so happy that they played 
the game with Microsoft and got burnt.

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Tobias DiPasquale
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