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Re: [PLUG] Re: Well, its official -- Sun is serious about being anti Linux and Open Source
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On Saturday 03 April 2004 05:34 pm, Tobias DiPasquale wrote:
| And what favors has Sun done you recently? What favors have they done the
| FLOSS community at large? I think the reason people (myself included) get
| upset about Sun is that seem to have a really bad attitude towards FLOSS in
| some ways and then try to make up for it in others, yielding a haphazard
| position in our minds.
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| What is so great about Sun? They refuse to open their source (Java), but
| don't have a problem using ours in their products (GNOME, Mozilla, Evo).
| They still can't see the value of running Linux on high-end servers and
| publicly slam it for that purpose when its brought up. If you think about
| it, you'll realize their hypocrisy and see a little bit of why I was so
| happy that they played the game with Microsoft and got burnt.
Allow me to elaborate:
I have friends that work at Sun and other friends that use Sun/Solaris
primarily and the mindset I get from them is that Open Source is a collection
of kids toys. That its not ready for prime time. This bothers me, since I am
a contributer to Open Source projects and I use them for prime time purposes
everyday, in ways that I consider to be prime time and others share that
view.
In a way, I can respect Microsoft's mentality more than Sun's because they
obviously view Open Source as a threat to their business, while Sun is
continuing along these "toy" lines. This is going to put them in a very tough
spot in the future and is invariably going to marginalize them.
As that goes, the settlement with Microsoft can only be good for Microsoft,
not Sun. Sun is going to start integrating their products with Microsoft and
history has clearly shown who the winner is when that starts happening, as
Will astutely pointed out earlier in this thread.
So as far as "bashing a traditional UNIX company", I do that because in my
mind, their position as such will lead them into being just another failed
UNIX provider when they don't have to be, like DEC and SGI, marginalized and
being pushed out of the market from both ends. It seems to me that only IBM
is really understanding what's going on these days, and that's to everyone
else's detriment.
Having said all that, I believe that it's naive to think that Sun can't fall
and that they can ignore the current trends in movement from both Open Source
and Microsoft and still stay in the same position in the market. Bigger
companies have fallen to Microsoft (Netscape) in the past, and Open Source is
making inroads in a whole lot of places that Sun can't or won't compete with.
If they continue with this attitude, I believe they will subsequently be
pushed out by Open Source and Microsoft from underneath and IBM from above.
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Tobias DiPasquale
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