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Re: [PLUG] update strategies/partition issue
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Okay, here is another question.
Do either CentOS or Whitebox handle legacy equipment and small hard drives
or are they like Fedora or Redhat 8+, requiring speed and space.
bs
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Art Alexion wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>
> > Art Alexion wrote:
> >
> >> I have been using RH 7.3. It' s been stable and fine but is starting
> >> to show its age vis-a-vie stuff I' d like to try but can't without a
> >> newer distro. (Newest frustration is installing gnucash; can't
> >> install newest and distro version fails dependencies because the
> >> dependencies are newer than it expects.)
> >>
> >> I have Mandrake 9.1, Slackware 9.1, Suse 9 (a live eval CD; don't
> >> know whether it will install to the HD), but want to try the hardware
> >> optimized version of Gentoo (need to download).
> >>
> >> I have never updated the same machine with a new distro (only fresh
> >> installs). I only have 3 partitions: /, /boot and /swap. Is there
> >> anyway to update without loosing home directories, /opt stuff, etc.?
> >>
> > First, back-up everything or grab a new harddrive. If you want to
> > upgrade RedHat 7.3 you might want to stick with the RedHat X.X
> > series. How about trying RedHat 9.0?
>
>
> Well I have the CDs for 8.0 but not 9.0.
>
> >
> > I don't know if Fedora would work well over RedHat 7.1.
>
>
> I have 7.3, but I guess the same issues remain. BTW, is FC1 more stable
> than FC2, or should I go with 2 if I am going in that direction?
>
> >
> > Hey, how about Whitebox or CentOS?
>
> This is a computer on a 2.5 computer network (the 0.5 is an old Win95
> 486-vesa bus; running the old software like a charm; I use it for some
> old vertical apps that aren't worth upgrading to current versions) so I
> wonder if Whitebox or CentOS aren' t overkill?
>
> >
> > In any case, switching to something non-RedHat would require a fresh
> > install.
> >
>
> Tom Diehl wrote:
>
> >Although I would not recommend upgrading to RHL 7.3 or 9 since neither is
> >supported by Red Hat, the Fedora Legacy project (fedoralegacy.org) is still
> >providing updates for both RHL 7.3 and 9. They will most likely continue
> >to do so as long as there is enough interest by volunteers to create the
> >errata releases. Due to lack of interest they have discontinued support
> >for anything older than 7.3 and RHL 8.0.
> >
>
>
> George Gallen wrote:
>
> >> Generally, when RH sees it has a former self on install it
> >> asks if you want to upgrade or install (fresh). If you pick
> >> upgrade, it will just upgrade the kernel and any drivers I
> >> believe you are using.
> >>
> >> I upgraded 7.3 to 8.0 without a problem
> >> then upgraded from 8.0 to FC1, but a USB network adapter didn't work.
> >> But then I did a fresh install of FC1 and it worked fine, so something
> >> didn't take on the second upgrade.
> >>
> OK.
>
> First, I am pleasantly surprised that I can upgrade RH->RH without
> loosing my data.
>
> I don't think the swap partition is big enough. Not sure. But I can
> burn /home to a CD-RW or 2.
>
> I yanked a 40 GB Maxtor from a computer I was going to put in my wife's
> classroom. She just needs a word processor, anyway. So I guess I can
> try a new distro on that. Any opinions on the hardware optimized
> version of Gentoo? Mandrake? Slackware?
>
> Meantime, I may as well try upgrading RH 7.3 -> 8.0 or whatever else
> would be an easy upgrade just to see. Can I skip versions if I get a
> hold of a newer RH?
>
> >> I'd do:
> >>
> >> 1. Make a full backup.
> >>
>
> I suppose there isn't that much reason to back up more than /home?
>
>
> > Dan Widyono wrote:
> >
> >FWIW, GnuCash was a royal pain to install on 7.3 but it was very easy on
> >9.0. My next adventure is to install FermiLinux SL3.0.2 (RHEL3 based distro)
> >and see if GnuCash plays nicely with it.
> >
> >GC doesn't have budgeting, so currently I use double line entry and manually
> >set the Transaction Type to BUDGET instead of Deposit/ATM/POS/etc. Oh well.
> >Based on forum discussion, it sounds like adding
> >"true-to-accounting-practices" budgeting to GC will take a lot of work which
> >nobody seems to be willing to do at the moment.
> >
> >
> >
> I have a CPA neighbor who tells me that none of the user targeted
> accounting packages -- Quicken, Quickbooks, Peachtree or Money have
> "true to accounting practices budgeting" dealing with lay concepts like
> income and expense rather than debits and credits. I suppose gnucash is
> aimed at the same user as the win-mac products, above, so it uses the
> lay concepts both for general understanding and for compatibility in
> terms of import-export.
>
> I am anxious to get it working because I just switched banks, and I want
> to start the new account in gnucash rather than having to move it from
> Quickbooks.
>
> >>I have never updated the same machine with a new distro (only fresh
> >>installs). I only have 3 partitions: /, /boot and /swap. Is there
> >>anyway to update without loosing home directories, /opt stuff, etc.?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >How large are they? Turn off swap, copy /home and /opt to /swap (mount it as
> >something real, mkfs first, of course), and upgrade without swap at first.
> >Copy everything back, mkswap that partition, and add it back to /etc/fstab as
> >swap. That would be the hard way. The "easy" way is to add another drive
> >temporarily, or sync files to another system. But you might not have those
> >resources available...
> >
> probably easier to back up to a cd-rw...
>
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>
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