William H. Magill on 28 Aug 2004 17:04:02 -0000


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Re: [PLUG] Lag time.


Walt Mankowski wrote:

I'm not on Comcast, but I also saw delays of about an hour earlier
today.  It hasn't been that common lately, but delays like this do
seem to happen sometimes on this list.

Posting lags are normally related to backbone network congestion and more frequently, lately, to server activity. Lags fluctuate all over the clock.


I can't think of a list where I get "instantaneous" posts anymore, and very few where they appear, as what I would even consider, "quickly." (Except early Monday mornings - like about 4am.)

Today, the number of ISPs who "meddle with the mail" is increasing exponentially and rapidly!

There was an article in the Inquirer this week talking about problems people were having because of all the various anti-SPAM actions ISPs are taking now on both OUTGOING and incoming mail. And, from my experience, every one of these actions requires reading the entire text of the message. (Remember, not everyone sends 1K ASCII text messages. They are frequently full of multi-meg "attachments" which also get scanned.) That means that the ISPs outgoing mail server is as much, if not more, a bottleneck than the backbone congestion or the destination mail server. Then add in the fact that your incoming ISP is also now doing more SPAM filtering.

There are very few situations where folks are NOT using an ISP's mail relay for either incoming or outgoing mail, or both.

... It all adds up. And, despite what George Gilder claims, bandwidth is still finite. All of the various new services -- VoIP, Video streaming, Audio streaming, etc. didn't exist at all just a couple of years ago, now they are becoming wide spread and consuming bandwidth.

Note that this situation is likely to "only get worse." In that QOS demands and requirements will give precedence to VoIP and other streaming technologies over seriously asynchronous email. I have no trouble seeing a return to the days when the sendmail timers were measured in days because it often took that long for a message to be delivered because of connectivity and bandwidth issues.

There may be plenty of capacity in the major long-haul IP backbones, but packets rarely take the "most direct route" from source to destination.

"Competitors," like Comecast, have their own backbones and don't route packets to outsiders unless they have to ... it costs them money to do so. (A T1 interconnect is much cheaper than a T3 interconnect, etc.) Note that Telephony has operated this way since 1976 when Ma Bell was broken up, and data communications is no different.

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