Re: [PLUG] dpkg help needed

[John Von Essen <john@essenz.com>]

apt-get works sometimes. But when you start installing alot of stuff it  
begins to break down. I manage about 35 debian systems (all > 2 yrs  
old), and I would say 10 of them have developed apt-get issues. Not  
sure if the problem lies in the apt get system, or how developers make  
the pkgs for apt get.

As for FreeBSD ports, I rarely have issues, and if you do have an  
issue, the ports subsystem explains exactly what you have to do to  
resolve the issue. i.e. I have never had ports go bananas on me and  
just stop working.

I also like the fact that ports forces the build on your platform,  
which in some ways avoids some issues if the port were a precompiled  
pkg. Also, ports will observe your gcc CFLAGS, I always use -O2 -pipe  
-march=pentium4. Ports also lets you pass ./configure options prior to  
the build. So apt-get apache may not be compiled with a certain module.  
With the apache in FreeBSD ports system, I use the same port but pass  
an additional --enable-modname parameter.

-John

On Feb 8, 2006, at 8:19 PM, Pat Regan wrote:

> John Von Essen wrote:
> > Why can't debian and other distro's just steal the ports system design
> > from FreeBSD and call it a day.
> >
> > My experience with debian apt-get is that after enough time passes and
> > enough pkg's are installed, it's guaranteed to get screwed up so bad -
> > its unfixable. At that point you have re-install the OS and start over
> > from scratch.
>
> My desktop and laptop had been running the the same install since  
> around
> the time Debian Woody went stable right up until I installed Ubuntu  
> late
> last year.  I never had any problems that weren't easily fixed.
>
> > Though... Nothing holds a candle to the FreeBSD ports system.
>
> What exactly is the advantage of FreeBSD ports over apt and dpkg?
>
> Pat
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