Christopher M. Jones on 4 Mar 2006 16:38:11 -0000


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Re: [PLUG] OSS Groupware for small office/family use


I'm by no means a connoisseur of groupware, but I'm in your precise
situation and I use phpgroupware (the egroupware suite is its
counterpart). My needs are limited to calendars and to-do lists, though.
In terms of integrating with iCal and such, you might look into setting
up an ldap server, which your groupware would also access. However,
support for this will be somewhat limited. I'm pretty sure that the
addressbook in OSX will look at ldap servers, but I'm not sure about
iCal. I know evolution does.

On Sat, 2006-03-04 at 07:54 -0700, Benjamin Krein wrote:
> Does anyone use any of the free groupware systems that are out
> there?  I'm going to be living in a situation where both my family
> and my parents will all be networked together using the same email
> domain & I'd like to setup some sort of groupware solution that we
> can all use.  The problem is that not everyone is a Linux user.
> We'll have Linux, Windows & OS X in the house all networked
> together.  The other problem is that the rest of the family isn't at
> all technically inclined nor do they want to be.
> 
> Please don't give me a bunch of replies about switching them to Linux
> or how much OS X or Windows may suck because that's already been
> beaten to death elsewhere and honestly it's not what I'm asking
> about.  Here are some of the products I'm considering:
> 
> 1. Horde - My webhost has it pre-installed and I've been evaluating
> it some.  I'm really pretty impressed with it, but I'm a little
> discouraged at it's inability to allow access to the calendars
> (subscribe/publish) from 3rd party apps (ie, Outlook, iCal,
> KOrganizer, Evolution, Sunbird, etc.).  The web interface is really
> pretty decent for the most part though and it's nice to be able to
> share calendars with each other via the web interface.
> 
> 2. Hula - I didn't have much luck getting this to be very effective.
> If someone else has used it successfully and talks it up, it will
> probably convince me to try harder with it, but for now I'm not all
> that impressed.  It seems VERY rough yet.
> 
> 3. Zimbra - This seems REALLY COOL!  The only problem is that it is
> an ENORMOUS resource hog.  I don't mind hosting the server in-house,
> but I don't really have any hardware capable of running this that I
> can dedicate to being a server (no, I don't want to give up my
> MythTV!).  I don't know how it deals with connections from 3rd party
> apps, but the web interface is absolutely stunning and something I
> could be very happy using on a regular basis.
> 
> 4. Scalix - This one also seems really cool like Zimbra and the
> community edition offers connections for up to 25 users free
> (Outlook, Evolution) which is obviously more than adequate.  I
> haven't actually tried this yet, but so far my biggest gripe is the
> fact that it doesn't have any intention of working with Debian
> whatsoever.  I really don't want to install an RPM distro for this,
> but it seems that is my only option without an enormous amount of
> headache which I'm not willing to invest.
> 
> 5. OpenGroupware - Another very powerful groupware package with a lot
> of features I like.  I'm not sure about connecting to it via 3rd
> party apps (I'm pretty sure the Outlook connections cost a lot and I
> won't pay for them).  The web interface is adequate, but hardly
> attractive or intuitive.  Also a resource hog.
> 
> 6. Open-X-Change - This one seems interesting though it also appears
> to be a resource hog and probably overkill for what I'm looking for.
> Connections to 3rd party apps also appear to require expensive add-
> ons.  The web interface seems decent enough.
> 
> 7. eGroupWare - I really didn't care for this.  The interface seems
> clunky and non-intuitive.  Maybe I'm missing something.
> 
> 8. SquirrelMail - I used to use this for webmail alone and I liked it  
> for that, but its groupware capabilities seem slim & its interface is  
> kind of dated and clunky (IMO).
> 
> I know I can setup a standalone mail server with Postfix/Courier-
> IMAP, etc. and use something like WebDAV for sharing calendars, etc.,
> but that's a REALLY clunky setup and I'd rather have a full featured
> suite that handles everything for me.  If anyone has any ideas or
> would care to talk up one of the ones I mentioned above, I'm all
> ears.  This topic in general has always seemed like one of the "holy
> grails" of Linux - the infamous Exchange Killer!  So even if I don't
> find something for my family, the discussion should be interesting.
> 
> Benjamin Krein
> www.superk.org
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